Bagels # 5   Bagels # 5   Vegan Bagels   4 1/4 to 4 3/4 cups    of all purpose flour.. I use bread flour. 1 package              yeast.  (I use bulk yeast about a tablespoon.                         You can never have too much yeast!) 1/4 cups               of sugar 1/1/2 cups             of warm water.  Instructions: ------------- The water I use is actually hot water.  I turn the tap and let it go almost as hot as it can get.  It needs to be fairly warm to activate the yeast.  I was always paranoid about killing the yeast and used water that was too cold and so the dough didn't rise enough.  So go ahead and use hot water.  Add the yeast to the water with 3 tablespoons of sugar and stir it around a little.  In about 30 seconds the whole thing should start to foam.  If it doesn't you probably didn't use hot enough water. The instructions say to add the flour a little at a time.  I don't bother - I just pour all the flour in.  I figure if it's too stiff I'll add a little water, if it's too wet I'll add a little flour.  Kneading is really important so knead it well.  I figure that I shouldn't skimp on kneading the dough because it's good exercise for giving long massages right?  So I try to do a hard knead for 15 minutes.  By this time dough should be elastic with no crumbs of dry flour embedded in it. If it's a little sticky it doesn't really matter that much.  If it's dry though it's hard to knead.  I'm lazy so I'd rather have it a little wet. At this point I diverge from the recipe.  The recipe has all sorts of complicated instructions about 10 minutes rest etc etc.  I just divide the dough into bagel shapes starting with a ball of dough then poking a hole in the middle.  Then I let it sit for about 45 minutes until it has risen.  The bagels should be nice and puffy.  If you were to bake the bagels now you would get bagels with the consistancy of bread.  But we all like chewy bagels.  So the trick is to boil the bagels.  So heat up some water to boiling and drop the bagels in and boil each side for about 3 mins. The recipe says to use x amount of water with sugar in it.  I don't bother.  So really I only use the 3 tablespoons of sugar.  Or a little more if I want my bagels sweet.  Drain the bagels on paper towels (or don't bother).  And bake them until they are brown at 375 degrees for about 25-30 mins.  If you like the glossy sheen use eggs to coat the outside.  Otherwise they are kind of ugly. By the way... when I make french bread I use a pan of water in the oven and it makes the french bread chewey.  I was thinking that I could do this with the bagels too.  Use a cup or 2 of boiling water in a pan while the bagels bake.  The french bread gets chewey so I would think the bagels would too.  I'll have to try it next time. Angel_Juli         This webset page was assembled on Sunday June 15, 2008 by BuzyS. with graphics from Hemera using one of the many auto-scripters available at  Chat_Central_Gateway  All rights reserved KENDOC 2005