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| | | From: DDuct2 (Original Message) | Sent: 12/2/2008 1:16 PM |
For all of you who do not believe in God or that Christmas should be celebrated, why do you seek to enjoy the benefits of the Christmas holidays such as time off from work, exchanging gifts, etc? Why do you take off from work on December 25th, the Christian holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus Christ if you do not believe in what it represents? Why do you insist that we use the term "Happy Holidays" if there is no holiday for you to celebrate? For all of you pagans who believe in the celebration of the winter solstice why not take December 20 or 21 off instead? For all of you agnostics and atheists why should you get to enjoy the benefits of the holidays since you have no belief in what they stand for? Seems to me if you all are so interested in restoring the economy you would simply work and use that time to increase the coffers of government by continuing to pay your taxes like good littlle citizens of the state. To those of you who do believe I wish each and every one of you a Merry Christmas |
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| | (1 recommendation so far) | Message 28 of 42 in Discussion |
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Well DDuct. I'll have to concede on this one. I cannot predict with certainty that the sun will rise in the morn. Still, It gives me a certain peace of mind to presume the the inevitable will most probably happen. |
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| | | From: DDuct2 | Sent: 12/5/2008 2:56 PM |
The question is not whether the sun will rise, as it most certainly will, the question is always whether we will be around to see it.  I also have no doubt that when January 20 rolls around Obama will become President (If I am still alive since no one knows what tomorrow may bring), and when that time comes he will be my President as well as yours. As such, I will give him all due respect until he gives me reason to do otherwise. |
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DDuct. Well, fair enough! But surely, like children anticipate Christmas before the event, you will allow an Obama supporter to look forward to the advent of wonderful change for our country. |
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Take the Lions and the points. |
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| | | From: DDuct2 | Sent: 12/5/2008 5:27 PM |
Stanley, even with the points, this year's Lions would find a way to lose!  Eppie, as the old saying goes, "Be careful what you wish for it just might come true". The change you wish for and what you may see may not be what you expect. |
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DDuct. After the Bush disaster, what could be worse? |
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| | (1 recommendation so far) | Message 35 of 42 in Discussion |
| | From: DDuct2 | Sent: 12/5/2008 6:41 PM |
There are a lot of things that could happen that would make Bush look like a visionary. |
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You said it quite well Dduct. MERRY CHRISTMAS (Let's keep "CHRIST" in CHRISTMAS!) and HAPPY HANUKKAH to all my Jewish friends. Brunette |
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(Let's keep "CHRIST" in CHRISTMAS!) its America,,, you're entitled. |
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Opar #14: LOL!-about your new gun.
And your point about everyone in the world throughout history trying to match their own personal god's significant day (or days) to coincide with an actual geographic event like the Southern Solstice is well taken. Everyone's god and their uncle thinks the Earth's natural orbit around our Sun has something to do with them, so it's no wonder that this cute little new religion of Christ was also eventually jammed into that fray (although a few days off the mark of course). I think many are sure Christ was really born in some other month I don't remember right now, but you know you can't change the true traditions of the "old" too far or dramatically away from their ongoing courses unless you also adapt yourself somehow into them. Thus the coincidences of the northern religions to all celebrate the return of the longer days light at around the same time. The Pagans are only in tuned with a geological event*, nothing more.
I would say that many accept the benefits of many holidays without question. Why be offended by that? Maybe for example like independence day, though it was also perhaps the same day white man decided to claim their "rights" to another people's rightful lands. Or thanksgiving perhaps, though you may not believe in the "pilgrims", or the reasons why they were pilgrimming, (spreading like disease).
We all seem to enjoy Halloween without giving a second thought to Pagan tradition. Myself I don't believe in Jesus being divine for one single second, but I certainly do believe in Santa Clause!
(*IE: the Sun's light reaching it's furthest point south in our planet's orbit, thus the return of the light back again to the northern hemisphere.)
Personally I think the term "Winter Solstice" is inaccurate really, and exclusionary, because this term obviously excludes half of the entire Earth living in Summer at the very same time - but that's just me) |
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| | From:  Opar5 | Sent: 12/13/2008 5:56 AM |
(# 23) Ken, Did you ever look-up the definition for "liberal"? If so, could you tell us your source, and how "liberal" is defined therein? Although I haven't been a Christian for well over 20-years (No, I didn't give it up for Lent), Christmas remains my favorite holiday, as nothing else brings so much joy to so many people, young and old. To all who believe in something, beyond having another beer, I wish you well. I even wish closed-minded Atheists well, knowing their willful ignorance won't last. ".... and to all a good night." |
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Have a wonderful WHITE Christmas!! |
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