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General : Barney Frank pushes for Automaker Bailout!
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From: Stanley Levin  (Original Message)Sent: 12/5/2008 4:02 PM

Hill leader says jobs report argues for car rescue

By JULIE HIRSCHFELD DAVIS, Associated Press Writer Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press Writer 25 mins ago

WASHINGTON �?A key House committee chairman said Friday that new bleak unemployment figures make helping the beleaguered domestic auto industry even more urgent and cautioned colleagues that doing nothing "would be a disaster."

Rep. Barney Frank, D-Mass., said "the country is held hostage" by the debate raging over how to help Detroit's Big Three automakers �?and the prospect of congressional inaction.

Frank spoke during the second day of testimony from the automakers seeking a government bailout of up to $34 billion �?and shortly after the government reported the biggest monthly job loss in 34 years.

Skeptical lawmakers are weighing whether to dole out as much as $34 billion in aid to the automakers as the once-mighty companies make their second round of pleas for government help to keep them from collapsing by year's end and potentially deepening the nation's already painful recession.

"For us to do nothing, to allow bankruptcies and failures in one or three of these companies in the midst of the worst credit crisis and the worst unemployment situation that we've had in 70 years would be a disaster," Frank said ahead of testimony to his House Financial Services Committee from the CEOs of General Motors Corp., Ford and Chrysler LLC.

Congress is considering a range of options, including a government-run oversight board. But no plan seems to be gaining much traction.

It is the second day of testimony for the auto chiefs, who tried to sell the Senate Banking Committee on Thursday on a new plan that would total $34 billion, up from the $25 billion they requested just two weeks ago.

"I don't want to send you home again because it's going to get more expensive," joked Democratic Rep. Gary Ackerman of New York.

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From: Stanley LevinSent: 12/6/2008 8:19 PM
Kudo's to Ford!

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From: MSN NicknameOpar5Sent: 12/10/2008 1:42 AM
Now all Ford needs to do is move to a non-union state and take whatever workers with them who will work for the prevailing wage.

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From: Stanley LevinSent: 12/10/2008 2:13 AM
Yeah, like that'll happen...lol
 
Good luck with that one!

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From: MSN Nickname™Curm�?/nobr>Sent: 12/10/2008 2:37 PM
SL,
 
Barney Frank pushes for Automaker Bailout!
YEAA!!!!  FREE money for everyone!
 
Who in Congress has LESS fiscal credibility than Barney Frank except perhaps Chris Dodd?

Curm

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/10/2008 2:40 PM
I heard instead of tax refunds next year everyone is going to get a bucket to help with the bailing!

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/10/2008 2:41 PM
I heard instead of tax refunds next year everyone is going to get a bucket to help with the bailing! You just fill the bucket with cash and send it back so government can redistribute it fairly!

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From: MSN Nicknameslslady10Sent: 12/10/2008 3:12 PM
a chapter 11 will do more to help them out than any free money giveaways. They should bite the bullet and take their medicine. A reconstruction of their industry practices are needed if they are to survive, and just giving them money will not change their ways! With chaptrr eleven, jobs will be kept, and the fleecing of bs payouts on union contracts, ceo bonuses, etc will disappear! BTW I think it is rich that Dodd, and Frank can sit in judgement and call for the dismissal of ceo's who helped this industry crisis along! If anything those two should be in prison for their part in th corruption of F&F!

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From: MSN Nickname™Curm�?/nobr>Sent: 12/10/2008 3:42 PM
SL2,
 
They should bite the bullet and take their medicine.
 
Why would they ever want to do that while they have a Nanny Statae Liberal Democrat Congress in office to fritter away Taxpayer earnings?

Curm

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From: Stanley LevinSent: 12/11/2008 2:23 AM
Barney Frank sucks!

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From: MSN Nickname™Curm�?/nobr>Sent: 12/11/2008 2:45 AM
SL,
 
Barney Frank sucks!
 
SO?  What's your point?

Curm

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/11/2008 1:46 PM
Looks like some of the Repubs and even some Dems in the Senate have finally listened to the people and remember what "fiscal conservative" means and are standing up to Bush and the rest until a definitive plan is laid out.
 
And it seems that pork and beans is still on some's agenda!
 

Also included in the bill is an unrelated pay raise for federal judges.

 

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From: Stanley LevinSent: 12/11/2008 4:50 PM
Curm, my point is Barney always seems to be 'the cheerleader' for certain passages of legislation but, in my mind, I'm not so sure he gives them enough time to 'think them through' before presenting them to a vote. That's what I mean. Also, in my view, his judgement is questionable at times.

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From: MSN NicknameOpar5Sent: 12/13/2008 6:16 AM
Last year Barney got outright terse during his committee's hearings on the then-coming insolvency in the financial market.     Jobs with Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac were were very lucrative pay-offs for political favors, and appreciative appointees returned the favor with campaign contributions - led by Dodd, Obama and Frank.

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From: MSN Nickname69BuickGSSent: 12/13/2008 1:55 PM
The Big Three have pumped more money into Republican bank accounts than just about anybody.

Where's their political favors?

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From: Stanley LevinSent: 12/13/2008 6:25 PM
Good question. And...there doesn't seem to be any
forthcoming, particularily in view of when Obama takes
office this January.

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