When the time for PERFORMANCE arrives, the time for PLANNING has gone!

Well said, Curm! Right on the money!

This is about the only time I agree with Alderman Troupe, he and his Dem party have controlled the city since the 1940's and it is their liberal, weak on crime stance that has gotten the city to this point, the state has had to take over the school district, they need to patrol the north side with the National  Guard.  I go

into the north side nearly every day for my work, it disgusts me to see trash, burned down buildings, beggers, bums, and so many walking the streets drinking beer and liquor at 10:00am.  I deal with many of the older blacks in that area and they mention once it turns dark out, they get inside and stay there.  

The north side has been completely taken over by black youth, the police are responders only to crime, I never see any of them on foot patrolling neighborhoods.

As government/law-enforcement has no affirmative obligation to protect anyone - and little ability to do so, coupled with the fat that those areas with the fewest lawful guns have the most violent crime (our prisons are one fine example), the logic of "gun-control" laws needs some explanation.     Could those legislators espousing a disarmed citizenry have something to fear from an armed citizenry, or did they imagine something noble about the disarmed individuals herded into cattle cars by the Nazis?      In either case, what does sending them back to legislate, election after election, say about the intelligence of those voters?

From my cold dead hands.

 

#6, agree, libs want the government to 'protect' us from violent crime, but yet cops only respond to murders by criminals that illegally possess guns, inner city cops wait for a crime to happen to take action.  Blacks need to take a stand against crime, instead of against the cops, yes, I agree, there are many cops just out to arrest/cite anybody for the municipal monies gained.  Gun laws are the most restrictive in D.C. yet the murder rate by guns is near the top of all U.S. cities, proper patrol and punishment is the answer.

John Lott's research on concelaed carry laws in every county in the nation shows that criminals will remain criminals, but when their intended victim or passerby has a fair chance of being armed (in newly "shall issue" states), many crimnals turn to non-confrontational crimes: forgery, theft, unoccupied-home burglary and such.    One of my sons is a cop and he's never been a first responder to any crime-in-process.    By the time the cops even know of the crime, it's over, with very few exceptions. 

Buick, you stupid ass, legal gun owners may reduce crime rate, illegal gun owners only increase crime rate, as in DC.

Just so long as anyone can get one everyone is happy.

 

Thank you NRA

 

140 years of arming crimminals and shooting children.

 

 

(# 12) Buick,

 

Are you even vaguely aware that your local police training officer is NRA certified?    If you can't figure it out, that means the NRA has been training both police and military small-arms instructors in proper weapons use and safety for well over half a century.      Of all those groups with "gun-control,' or "gun safety," or "common sense" in their propaganda, can you name even one that knows a damned thing about guns or gun safety?        Which one certifies law-enforcement or civilian safety programs - ANYWHERE?     Are you even aware that the CDC&P, reviewing all the scientific studies on the effects of specific gun-control laws found "NO EVIDENCE" that ANY of the 20,000+ "gun-control" laws in the US of A accomplished whatever it was enacted to accomplish?     Some have even cost lives!

 

Did Sigmund Freud describe your problem correctly as "a fear of weapons" in Introduction to Psychoanalysis, 1952, or perhaos Sarah Thompson nailed it in, Raging Against Self-Defense: A Psychiatrist Analyzes the anti-gun attitude?

 

 

The NRA is gay.

Opar,

 

Exactly as you eloquently stated in post 13.  The NRA trains more military and law enforcement people than ALL other organizations combined by quantums.  If we were a nation, our annual budget would place us higher than many, and every penny comes from our millions of members and supporters.

 

Curm

(# 14) Buick, is that an attempt to express solidarity?     If you are a member of the Pink Pistols, you'd know they aren't a former NRA affiliate.

 

(# 15) Curm, thank you.

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From: <NOBR>Opar5</NOBR> Sent: 07/12/2008 10:11 PM (# 12) Buick,   Are you even vaguely aware that your local police training officer is NRA certified?    If you can't figure it out, that means the NRA has been training both police and military small-arms instructors in proper weapons use and safety for well over half a century.   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

From: <NOBR>Opar5</NOBR>

Sent: 05/12/2008 3:43 PM

Cops are notoriously poor gun-owners.      Seattle's Police Chief walked out of a resturant over a year ago, leaving his pistol in the booth.     It hasn't been seen since.

(# 17)  Poor Buick,

 

I've coached over a dozen youth and women's sports teams using basically the same approach to instruction and tactics.    Given the local championships those teams won - and came close to winning - including a 14-15 year-old mixed soccer team including six girls who played in every game (70% wins) and a boys team that opposing coaches refused to field their teams against on opening day (after seeing our warm-ups).      All my players didn't learn as well as others; one wouldn't wear his shin-guards, and he got a hairline fracture and couldn't finish the season (accounting for that 70%).     Since my cop-son isn't included, some cops are rather impressed with themselves and make poor students.     If you'd blame the NRA instructors, who might you blame for our deteriorating public-education system?