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General : Republicans have brought us Disaster Capitalism
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From: sanity  (Original Message)Sent: 12/14/2008 2:45 PM
...And they've destroyed Deomcracy in the process.
 
PAUL B. FARRELL

Wall Street's 'Disaster Capitalism for Dummies'

14 reasons Main Street loses big while Wall Street sabotages democracy

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We adapted his historical analysis of 14 key traits for today's discussion. Notice how they have a huge impact your investments and retirement:
1. Wall Street rich get first priority
Think "bailout." Wall Street's greedy con game spins out of control globally. Millions of homeowners misled, lose. Who gets hundreds of billions first? Wall Street's con men.
2. National security obsession
Think of the expansion of executive powers in the name of national security: Preemptive wars, wiretapping private citizens, Gitmo, torture; driven by a dark wealthy neocon elite.
3. Superpower with massive military
Think of our $3 trillion Iraq/Afghan War. Disaster capitalists love the thrill of military power. We outspend all nations, over half the federal budget to strut before the world.
4. Extreme nationalism
Signs are everywhere: Flags, lapel pins, "support the troops" slogans, all to get huge military budgets passed. Challenge them and you're un-American and unpatriotic.
5. Rally the masses by scapegoating enemies
Think "axis of evil," mushroom clouds, "Islamofascists," more terrorist attacks on the homeland. Propaganda creates "enemies" in the public's mind and distracts from real issues.
6. Corruption and cronyism
Think earmarks, no-bid defense contracts, paid mercenaries outnumbering military in Iraq, superlobbyist Jack Abramoff, biofuels, bridge to nowhere, millions donated to campaigns.
7. Obsession with crime
Think of prison-building as just another investment opportunity, rather than focusing on reforming our criminal justice system. Stoke irrational fear of criminals and extremists.
8. Labor and low wages
Think corporate earnings versus the wages paid to workers. No "trickling down," leaves more for tricklers: Rich insiders, stockholders. Wages dropping as CEO salaries skyrocket.
9. Contempt for human rights
Think of abuses of habeas corpus, loss of right to trial, bogus charges, plus "demonizing" the victims, all in the name of national defense and homeland security.
10. Mass media manipulation
Think of leaking false information, Joseph Wilson, Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby, Colin Powell's United Nation's testimony, Condoleezza Rice's mushroom clouds, WMDs, all to suppress the truth.
11. Obsession with sexism
Think of paternalism, antigays, antiabortion, subordinate women -- then codify the system as the law of the land reinforcing a male-dominated society, punish violators.
12. Disdain for intellectuals
Think of conservative intellectuals Francis Fukuyama and Bill Buckley. Contrast them to Sarah Palin and Joe Sixpack conservatism, Bush's funding cuts for arts and science education.
13. Religion in government
Think of all the faith-based programs versus antiscience in drug approvals, creationism vs. evolution, Ten Commandments enshrined in public buildings, public money to churches.
14. Fraudulent elections
Think of police and prosecutorial intimidation and threats to voters, challenging minority voters, ballots disappearing, party election officials committing outright fraud.
Yes, officially America is still a democracy. We have enough signs and rituals to support that illusion. But the truth is America has become a plutocracy run by and for the wealthy. And since Wall Street's Disaster Capitalism coup de grace, we are rapidly morphing into a dangerous new government.
For more, read Britt's original article, then add comments here: Was the meltdown planned by Wall Street's Disaster Capitalists? End of Story

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/14-reasons-main-street-loses/story.aspx?guid=%7BF63EC448-D9C1-4138-AC18-97BF0FE68EE3%7D&print=true&dist=printMidSection



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From: MSN Nickname™Curm�?/nobr>Sent: 12/14/2008 3:23 PM
Strange how there wasn't a single peep from Paul regarding:
 
1.  Gun controls against peaceful people as the Nanny State liberals work to coddle the criminals who are the only ones using guns for crime.
 
2.  The Illegal, Alien, Criminals, streaming across our borders.
 
3.  Ever higher taxes to convince people to cease risk taking, and lower all economic expectations.
 
4.  Etcetera!
 
Curm

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From: MSN NicknameMODave3Sent: 12/15/2008 10:46 AM
Lead post has so many lies I don't know where to begin, and I have to get off to work and don't have the time to rebut all the BS, I will address the military budget thought, is is roughly 1/6th of budget, not over 1/2.

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/15/2008 1:19 PM
HERES a pie chart of the 2008 US Budget.

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From: MSN NicknameopaleuxSent: 12/15/2008 4:45 PM
yes..it is full of lies.  It is not worth a debate.

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From: sanitySent: 12/17/2008 1:39 AM
Why do Republicans never want to include Social Securty and Medicare taxes when they complain that the wealthy are paying too much in taxes yet want to include the self-funding and in the black budgets of Social Security and Medicare when they want to defend their grossly overspending on the military?

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/17/2008 2:09 PM
I believe there is a typo in you nic, they forgot the "in" in front. In case you didn't realize it, it is the spending on the military that allows you to speak your twisted viewpoint to the world.

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From: sanitySent: 12/18/2008 9:13 PM
Huh... Can't answer about the budget slight of hand, I see.

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From: MSN NicknameCaptainKBTSent: 12/18/2008 11:41 PM
Answer what...?  You got a link or something that we can read to see exactly what your talking about?

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From: DDuct2Sent: 12/18/2008 11:47 PM
As I said Capt, he left out the "in" in his name. Now he's talking black budgets when all we see are red ones brouth forth by those esteemed dems in Congress!

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From: MSN NicknameCaptainKBTSent: 12/19/2008 12:06 AM
Oooo those evil "black budgets" and "wealthy" people......sounds like too many hollywierd movies to me.

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From: MSN NicknameMODave3Sent: 12/19/2008 11:20 AM
sanity, every time the Dems cut military budget, we end up in a war we have to play catch up in, and dramatically increase military budget, WW2, Korean, Vietnam, Cold war in late '70's, and War on Terror.

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From: MSN Nicknamecimmee1960Sent: 12/21/2008 12:35 PM
I like military spending.  We need to increase it.  It is below the levels of 40 years ago.  More training, better pay, better equipment!

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From: MSN Nickname™Curm�?/nobr>Sent: 12/21/2008 2:00 PM
San,
 
Why do Republicans never want to include Social Securty and Medicare taxes
 
I can't answer for the Republicans as I am a Conservative Democrat.  My answer is that funds the SS checks they receive
 
.  If you want to make SS voluntary for ALL Americans, or allow people to opt for a 'half payment' program.  Then when they retire in consideration for them and their employer paying one half of the funds now, they receive a one half sized check.  I will go along so long as all Americans are treated the same, and not the Anti-American Class Warfare the Nanny State Liberal Democrats attempt to foist against Americans.
 
Curm

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From: MSN NicknameAdude_0Sent: 12/21/2008 10:36 PM
       care to point out the lies in the opening post and refute them?

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From: AlucardSent: 12/21/2008 11:28 PM
As much as I detest the republicans, lets not forget who is in control in congress.
 
Democrat = Pepsi
Republican = Coke

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