Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez Buick are we gonna go back into all that crap about a Palestian state existing....When there was no Palestinian State before Isarel took it in 1967...When she defeated five Arab Armies amassed on her borders.....Yaawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn...Strange when Eygpt owned Gazza Trans Jordan owned the West Bank prior to the 1967 war of attrition....Not one Arab nation was interested in a Palestinian state  Now were they.......Because it just did not exist....never has in the whole history of the Middle East. 

somebody post the map of Muslim land that extends over the mideast, far east and northern Africa. 

Israel has stolen approximately the same amount of land, right?

Sure Henry...no problem

 

Everyone knows...Israel has so much and the Muslims have so little.

did I insult you?

I will answer that with a question of my own if you don't mind..

"Did I insult you"....

 

          Yes

"When there was no Palestinian State before Isarel took it in 1967..."

 

Sure. The resolution that created a jewish state did not create an arab one as well.

 

That was all a misunderstanding.

     The Israeli government did indeed withdraw from the Gaza Strip in 2005 �?in order to be able to intensify control of the West Bank. Ariel Sharon's senior adviser, Dov Weisglass, was unequivocal about this, explaining: "The disengagement [from Gaza] is actually formaldehyde. It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that is necessary so that there will not be a political process with the Palestinians... this whole package that is called the Palestinian state has been removed from our agenda indefinitely."

     Ordinary Palestinians were horrified by this, and by the fetid corruption of their own Fatah leaders, so they voted for Hamas. It certainly wouldn't have been my choice �?an Islamist party is antithetical to all my convictions - but we have to be honest. It was a free and democratic election, and it was not a rejection of a two-state solution. The most detailed polling of Palestinians, by the University of Maryland, found that 72 per cent want a two-state solution on the 1967 borders, while fewer than 20 per cent want to reclaim the whole of historic Palestine. So, partly in response to this pressure, Hamas offered Israel a long, long ceasefire and a de facto acceptance of two states, if only Israel would return to its legal borders.

     Rather than seize this opportunity and test Hamas's sincerity, the Israeli government reacted by punishing the entire civilian population. It announced that it was blockading the Gaza Strip in order to "pressure" its people to reverse the democratic process. The Israelis surrounded the Strip and refused to let anyone or anything out. They let in a small trickle of food, fuel and medicine �?but not enough for survival. Weisglass quipped that the Gazans were being "put on a diet". According to Oxfam, only 137 trucks of food were allowed into Gaza last month to feed 1.5 million people. The United Nations says poverty has reached an "unprecedented level." When I was last in besieged Gaza, I saw hospitals turning away the sick because their machinery and medicine was running out. I met hungry children stumbling around the streets, scavenging for food.

     It was in this context �?under a collective punishment designed to topple a democracy �?that some forces within Gaza did something immoral: they fired Qassam rockets indiscriminately at Israeli cities. These rockets have killed 16 Israeli citizens. This is abhorrent: targeting civilians is always murder. But it is hypocritical for the Israeli government to claim now to speak out for the safety of civilians when it has been terrorising civilians as a matter of state policy.
        http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/johann-hari-the-true-story-behind-this-war-is-not-the-one-israel-is-telling-1214981.html

          I'd concur with that.  They should at least be honest about their intentions.

 

          And Livni should stop lying.