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Movies : Since I love talking box office.....Shrek 2 is just blowing them away.
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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNest  (Original Message)Sent: 6/17/2004 5:12 PM
Though it's only been in release for 31 days, Shrek 2 has taken in an amazing $359mil as of Tuesday, June 15.
 
It blew away Spider-Man's record of 22 days to reach $300mil.  Shrek 2 did it in 18.
 
Spider-Man took 66 days to reach $400 mil and Shrek looks like it may be there in less than 50.
 
Also, it just passed Jurassic Park to be the #8 grossing film of all time.
 
Next on the list is Passion of the Christ with $370mil, and Lord of the Rings: Return of the King with $377mil.
 
At this rate, I see no reason Shrek won't earn the $77mil or so needed to pass up Spider-Man, Star Wars Episode 1 and ET and land in 3rd place all time.  Actually, it's not out of the question that it'll make the $101mil needed to pass up Star Wars and end up #2 all time.
 
Absolutely amazing.  Well....til Spider-Man 2 comes out anyway. :)
 
Jim


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From: MSN NicknameGingerAle2020Sent: 6/18/2004 1:38 AM
Jim I'm just curious, what do you account for the success at the box office with some of these movies breaking record after record? (With the exception of The Passion) Is it the number of screens and show times they are initially playing these movies on?  Some of these movies are litterally being shown every thirty minutes at some theaters and more and more theaters are being built with 20 to 30 theaters inside. (Oh and I have a major complaint about that which I will get into in a seperate thread.) Is it the rise in ticket prices?  Movies cost more now than when Jurrasic Park was released. Or are some of these movies just that good?  Just curious about your take on it.

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From: MSN NicknameT¥ËSent: 6/18/2004 6:49 AM

my entire family went to see shrek 2

it was wonderful.  i even dare to say it was better then the first one


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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNestSent: 6/18/2004 2:36 PM
Ginger,
 
It's a combination of things, but you hit the nail on the head best with the number of screens and showings.  Inflation has a little to do with it as well, but not as much as you'd think.
 
What's wild is, every year more people seem to be going to the movies...as BO goes up every year...and that can't all be put on a rise in ticket prices.
 
To be honest, I'm not sure why we seem to be having record breaking week after record breaking week.  I'd like to say it was because quality has improved...but I saw Spider-Man and it wasn't that good.  It was certainly not better than either X-Men film and made double the money.
 
I also think you can never discount the advertising.  Shrek 2 was EVERYWHERE....and they especially blitzed the kids stations (Nick and Cartoon Network.)
 
It's just wild to think that when this summer's over, we'll likely have seen 3 or 4 of the top ten grossing films ever, released this summer.
 
Jim

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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNestSent: 6/20/2004 4:51 PM
And with Saturday's estimates in....Shrek 2 has surpassed Passion of the Christ and is only $3mil (which it'll get easily with Sunday's estimate) to pass Return of the King for 6th place all time.
 
Amazing...simply amazing.
 
Jim

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From: MSN Nicknamefreethought201Sent: 6/21/2004 6:24 PM
Is it about money or is it about art?  Is box office a gauge of quality?   

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From: MSN NicknameLoLo112Sent: 6/23/2004 12:25 AM
To the studios it's about money - just because Shrek 2 will more than likely surpase the Passion in box office sales, it sure doesn't mean it's a better story or a higher quarlity movie.  I would make the conclusion that the main reason Shrek is going to make more money than Passion is because there is a bigger audience.  You wouldn't take your 5 year old to see Passion, but you would to see Shrek.  But that's just my opinion

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From: MSN NicknameGingerAle2020Sent: 6/23/2004 3:31 AM
I think the box office is probably only a good gauge of quality after three or four weeks.  Movies stay in the top five for several weeks or longer usually because of good word of mouth and people seeing it more than once.  As opposed to a movie that opens one or two at the box office then drops off the charts.  But that's not say there aren't lots of excellent movies that never make it to the top five, and I say thank goodness for the Academy Awards who often bring attention to them.

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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNestSent: 6/26/2004 4:25 AM
to answer freethought's question...my post was quite obviously about money.
 
when a film does something out of the ordinary, box office-wise, I take note.  Why?  Because it's a hobby of mine.  I was all over the Passion phenomenon when it was going on and I'll likey be all over the crazy #s I'm hearing for Farenheit 9/11.
 
And Ginger's right...when a film tops the box office for several weeks in a row...especially in the fickle summer movie season, it generally is a sign of a quality product.
 
When a film shows the kind of legs that Shrek is showing, it is a quality film.  Otherwise, you'd have a crazy high opening followed by a quick trip to the video store.  Summer's usually full of those.  Shrek is different.
 
Also, I'm going to assume that you weren't being as condescending as your post seemed.
 
Jim

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From: MSN NicknameJimVanNestSent: 7/6/2004 10:46 PM
And with $410mil, Shrek has now moved into 5th place all time, passing Spider-Man.
 
Next on the list is Episode 1 with $431mil and ET with $435...and I think it has a realistic shot at those.
 
I don't think it'll have the legs to catch Start Wars at $461mil though.
 
Jim

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