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From: MSN Nicknamescissor_queen  (Original Message)Sent: 11/29/2005 5:29 AM
It looks like we need a new subject for this section of our Messages! So, I'm going to start a juicy one!
What kind of experiences have you stylists had with product reps? I think that this topic can definitely be a "Vent it Here" subject, so let's hear your stories!


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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 11/30/2005 5:08 AM
Juicy? Now I'm curious!  Unfortunately, this is something that I can't add to. Why don't you start us off with a story of yours?
 
 

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From: MSN Nicknamescissor_queenSent: 11/30/2005 3:06 PM
Good Morning.
Well, here is a juicy one for all of you salon owners or managers who deal with product reps in your salon. A gentleman from Goldwell came to our salon for the 1st time. We handled strictly Matrix products and I wasn't interested in working with Goldwell. "Thank you for stopping Mr...... but I'm not interested at this time." He replies, "But ma'am, this is the best product on the market! What is your reasoning for not choosing Goldwell?" I replied back, "Well, first of all, it's expensive. Secondly, I'm very happy with the results I'm getting with Socolor. And last of all, my clients love Matrix products!" He goes on to say, "Let me convince you that this is the best product on the market. You won't be disappointed." I said to him, "Listen, Sir, I will not repeat myself. I'm not interested. " He replies back, "You stylists are all the same. F***ing B****es. You wouldn't know a good product if it slapped you in the face!" I couldn't believe he had the balls to say that to me! So, of course I had his business card and the second he left the salon, I phoned his boss and had the guy fired. That has been, to this day, the worst sales rep I have ever worked with.
 
Does that give you an idea of what I'm asking??

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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 11/30/2005 11:29 PM
Wow! He was rude! It's hard to believe there could be such unprofessionalism in that line of work. I'm glad you had him fired!
 
Good topic!
 
 

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From: cosmoSent: 12/1/2005 1:18 AM
whoa scissor queen,  man that is crazy. i am glad that you handled it the way you did. i admire that. i hate it when people stareo type us, we're all the same, yeah right mr. i would also hate to be the pushy sales person. even when i was in school and we had to recommend products to clients when they needed them, i just suggest that they buy and use the product for theyre benefit then if they dont they dont, at least i told them what i think as a hair stylist. i hate it when i go to hair shows and i go to up to a product stand and see what it's about and then the person trys to push me to buy the product. all that does is scare people off when they try and  pressure people into buying theyre product or whatever they are selling. i would appreciate it more if someone were to come up to me and briefly tell me what i need to know about the product and not pressure me into buying "theyre product". how do the rest of you feel about this?

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From: MSN Nicknamescissor_queenSent: 12/1/2005 4:35 AM
Oh absolutely! A salesman is a salesman. BUT some really suck at it! When we educate our client on products, we are actually in the progress of making sale. We explain to them why we think it's a great product and that's it! In many cases they will purchase the stuff. But if they don't, don't fret. They will be back. Successful salemen do well because they don't push. My rep, Todd, is the best I've ever had the pleasure of dealing with! He had 10+ years of working at a large furniture store in Regina. So, he had experience in selling. All he had to do was learn the product. Well, it's amazing how fast he has learned. The first thing he tells me when he walks into my salon is, "Hey girl! How are the kids? My son is......" We talk about our kids before work. That's important. It tells me he not only cares about my checkbook, but my life as well. Because if my life sucks, so will my business.

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From: MSN NicknameStarliteny1Sent: 12/1/2005 5:31 AM
I agree with Cosmo about the product pushing. I don't like to talk to anyone anymore if I show an interest in any product, and then they start presuring me to buy. I also don't "push" the retail. I do my best to recomend, but in the long run, it's going to have to be their choice. I would rather them appreciate my suggestions, because I'm only trying to help, and when they're ready, more likely than not, they're going to buy what we suggested anyway.  

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From: curlup&dyeSent: 12/29/2005 1:59 AM
Yes I had something similar with a Keune rep who was trying to get me to switch. Like you scissor queen I'm a long time socolor user I was an educator with them(matrix) and I had to say I'm pretty content with the results I'm getting. Which like you I gave them the thanks but no thanks line and I get in reply back."All good colorist switch lines all the time" Which I find to be a big load of B. S.!!! Not to say that there aren't other color lines out there that are just as good if not better but as a stylist you want assurance that when you tell a client it's going to be like this it will turn out that way. If your color line is doing that then why would you want to change. I think that the biggest problem with the reps is that they've never worked in the industry they don't know what it's like. To many of them will say" here is a new product don't you want to buy it?" Then I say what does this product do? Why is it different than this other one that I'm using?  Why do I want to switch and half the time they have no idea. the people in our Supply warehouse  don't know anything about the products that they are selling to you either. I live in Colorado and I visit my parents in Arizona. I was in Arizona trying to decide which Aquage hairspray to get my mom when a stylist came over with a girl who worked the counter. The stylist asked about Aquage which was a new line to the store there.All the girl could tell her was that you could layer it on and it wouldn't build up. The stylist looked at me and asked me if I had used the line before I told her yes and proceeded to give her a run done on what products would be good for certain things. She was so happy that she said I was wondering where you work and if you want a job. I had to tell her I lived out of state but that just proved to me that we educate are clients and we want our reps to educate us about new products but they don't. Sorry this reply is so long winded

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