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General : I guess the Democraps thought we'de forget about these little tidbits!!!
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From: MSN Nicknamewar_kittensSent: 10/1/2008 12:59 PM
There were 39 combat related killings in Iraq in January...one American city, about as deadly as the entire war-torn country of Iraq.
 
How many Iraqi's were killed during the same period, through terrorist attacks or other violent means?  How many Iraqi soldiers and how many civilians?  You can't take the figures from one segment and project it over the entire country.
 
Germany never attacked us; Japan did
 
Following the attack on Pearl Harbor, FDR asked Congress to declare war on Japan only.  It was Germany and Italy who declared war on the U.S., on December 11, 1941, and not the other way around.
 
And as for your other examples, are Republicans much better?  Spain never attacked us but McKinley went to war with them.  Iraq never attacked us in 1991, but Bush senior went to war with them.  And Iraq never attacked us in 2002, but Bush junior went to war with them.  And of course, the Confederacy never attacked the U.S., but Lincoln went to war with them. 
 
Our Commander-in-Chief is doing a great job...
 
I beg to differ.

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From: MSN NicknameCatdancing4u2Sent: 10/2/2008 1:16 PM
I beg to differ.
 
And you are entitled to that opinion as long as this country is still free for you to voice that opinion. If you were in Islam voicing your opinion I assure you that your pretty little head would be feeding the buzzards.
 
Don't take out your arrogance on me, I just posted something that someone else sent me so that others like yourself could voice your opinion, be you a bleeding heart liberal, a communist pig, gutter swill, skinhead, kkk, or whatever party you support.
 
And please don't quote historical fact to me, I've lived on this earth long enough to know that both parties have let this country and it's people down time and time again, and it's only getting worse. I've lost too much already for this country, and I get sick to my guts when the whiners and liberals scream for the war to be over and to bring the soldiers home.
 
If we don't take care of the problem over there, then those muslims over there are going to bring it right to your front door. Remember those men and women volunteered  to fight for this country. No one, absolutely no one was drafted.
 
Thanks for your opinion any way. Duly noted!!!

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From: MSN NicknameNoliMeTangere-1861Sent: 10/7/2008 2:16 PM
I think this has been shown to be a myth on snopes a while back.  Seen it in a couple different forms over the last couple years.

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From: MSN NicknameVA_ConfederateSent: 10/15/2008 8:56 PM
Not much difference between the parties anymore. They are both more concerned with furthering their own agendas, and cementing their own power base than to helping to improve our country or bring relief to the American people.
 
What this country needs is a viable third party to enter the political arena.

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From: MSN NicknameCatdancing4u2Sent: 10/17/2008 3:26 PM
This had been posted on Snopes.com awhile back, but further digging around on some of the things mentioned did reveal some grains of truth.Not totally, but some.

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From: MSN NicknameGenMDCorseSent: 10/24/2008 12:52 AM

Try this for getting your knickers in a knot . . . This story was covered, October 7, 2008, in the Lufkin Daily News, however, not in such detail. <o:p></o:p>

Dear Friends:<o:p></o:p>

We have had some interesting things going on our street this week but this 'takes the cake'. The election is less than a month away �?people need to be aware of this information of the tactics that have been used this week on my neighbor. This is not a political agenda I am on, this is a matter of principle. She is not a 'mental case nor political activist' just your everyday young Mom with small children and a husband out of the military. If this is the kind of 'change' Mr. Obama is referring to, we are definitely in for more than what has met the eye. What has happened here is not only appalling but frightening to think we may no longer have the freedom to speak against 'the powers that be' without the Secret Service showing up at your door. Keeping in mind, there is no taped conversation - simply a disgruntled volunteer who was not getting the response she was looking for. Jessica has contacted several politicians and news organizations - some who have told her 'this is out of my jurisdiction'. Please! Enough is enough - I for one will stand behind this young woman and notify every person I can possibly think of to make people aware of this travesty! I hope you will forward this on as well to as many people as you possibly can - especially to our elected officials and news organizations. Feel free to email me for verification. <o:p></o:p>

Connie Wells <o:p></o:p>

<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Lufkin</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">TX</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p>

On Wednesday the 1st of October I received a call on my cell while in the car with my husband. It was a woman who identified herself as calling from the Obama Campaign. The phone # she called from was <u1:SPAN onmouseup="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,1,'0',true,16,'');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" class=skype_tb_injection onmousedown="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,2,'0',true,16,'');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" id=softomate_highlight_0 onmouseover="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,1,'0',true,16,'');" title="Call this phone number in United States of America with Skype: +19037986020" onclick="javascript:skype_tb_doRunCMD('call','0',null,0);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" onmouseout="javascript:skype_tb_imgOnOff(this,0,'0',true,16,'');" IamRTL="0" context="903-798-6020" durex="0"><u1:SPAN onmouseup="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',1,1,16);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" class=skype_tb_imgA onmousedown="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',2,1,16);return skype_tb_stopEvents();" id=skype_tb_droppart_0 onmouseover="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',1,1,16);" title="Skype actions" style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(file://C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/__SkypeIEToolbar_Cache/e70d95847a8f5723cfca6b3fd9946506/static/inactive_a.compat.flex.w16.gif)" onclick="javascript:skype_tb_SwitchDrop(this,'0','sms=0');return skype_tb_stopEvents();" onmouseout="javascript:doSkypeFlag(this,'0',0,1,16);"><u1:SPAN class=skype_tb_imgFlag id=skype_tb_img_f0 style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(file://C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/__SkypeIEToolbar_Cache/e70d95847a8f5723cfca6b3fd9946506/static/famfamfam/US.gif)"></u1:SPAN></u1:SPAN><u1:SPAN class=skype_tb_imgS id=skype_tb_img_s0 style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(file://C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/__SkypeIEToolbar_Cache/e70d95847a8f5723cfca6b3fd9946506/static/inactive_s.compat.gif)"></u1:SPAN><u1:SPAN class=skype_tb_injectionIn id=skype_tb_text0 style="BACKGROUND-IMAGE: url(file://C:/DOCUME~1/Jack/LOCALS~1/Temp/__SkypeIEToolbar_Cache/e70d95847a8f5723cfca6b3fd9946506/static/inactive_m.compat.gif)"><u1:SPAN class=skype_tb_innerText id=skype_tb_innerText0>903-798-6020 which lists as 'Obama Volunteers of Texarkana ' (<st1:State w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texas</st1:place></st1:State>). She asked if I was an Obama supporter to which I replied:<o:p></o:p>

'No, I don't support him, your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the State Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.' I hung up.<o:p></o:p>

Thursday, October 2, I answered the front door to find the Secret Service. Immediately I thought of the call and was furious that apparently you are not allowed to call Obama a Socialist without the Secret Service coming to investigate. Instead, they asked me about the following comment, relayed by the Obama Volunteer of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Texarkana</st1:place></st1:City> who called me, unsolicited on my cell phone: <o:p></o:p>

'I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.'<o:p></o:p>

My husband laughed and told them No, she called him a socialist but she never said a word about him dying. I gave them my actual quote. The woman asked insolently Oh? Well why would she make that up? <o:p></o:p>

I replied that I supposed she wasn't happy about what I said about her candidate and the Agent said That's right, you were rude! The last time I checked being rude wasn't a crime in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region>.<o:p></o:p>

Luckily the big file they had gathered on me didn't indicate mental instability or a past life of stalking/crime, however they did want to know how I felt about Obama. That was my limit. I told the Agent in no uncertain terms that my thoughts were not pertinent to their investigation, that this was <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">America</st1:place></st1:country-region> and the last time I checked I was allowed to think whatever I wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. In fact, even if I had said what she claimed, that isn't a threat. I told them (again) and my husband verified that the statement reported by Obama's volunteer was a lie. I asked them if there was a tape of the call and they said no. I said, 'So on the word of a ticked off Obama supporter you are on my porch with no other evidence and you want to question me about my THOUGHTS!?'<o:p></o:p>

They informed me that there was no evidence she was an Obama supporter...someone calling from his campaign...are you kidding? <o:p></o:p>

I was not allowed to know the name of my accuser at which point they informed me that it wasn't like I was in a court of law, YET, as if this was a good thing. I recognized this as a veiled threat. I told them I would happily go to court since I did nothing wrong and at least then my accuser would have to face me rather than sending the thought police to my house. <o:p></o:p>

They then said they were trying to do me a favor, that they came to me first before embarrassing you by going to all your neighbors and family, another threat? I told them to be my guest and talk to whomever they wanted but they weren’t going to investigate my thoughts on my porch. They also informed me that it would be easier if the next time a supporter calls me I just say 'Yeah sure count me in, or just hang up' apparently so she won't get her undies in a bundle and give them more useless trips. Yeah right. I said 'Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate and I can't tell them why I don't?' I said I was sorry they made a wasted trip but if they had a problem with some made up lie they needed to go talk to her about it because it wasn't my fault they had to drive from <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Houston</st1:place></st1:City> for nothing.<o:p></o:p>

At one point I went inside and got a notepad to record their badge numbers and they refused to show me their badges. They had done the quick flip when they arrived. I asked for a card and the female Agent refused to give me one stating You're not going to get a card. The male Agent gave me a card and told me I could contact <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Houston</st1:place></st1:City> with any questions.<o:p></o:p>

The fact that the volunteer lied, the fact that the Secret Service came to my house to question me about my thoughts and feelings and threaten to embarrass me to my neighbors and go to court if I didn't cooperate is not really the tragedy here. Because that girl on the phone doesn't have the pull to send the Secret Service to my home. Someone high in the ranks of a campaign working for a man who may be the next President of the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">United States of America</st1:place></st1:country-region> felt comfortable bringing the force of the Federal Government to bear on a private citizen on nothing but the word of a partisan volunteer.<o:p></o:p>

I want to file a counter complaint that false charges were made, that a false report was given to a peace officer. The Secret Service told me I cannot because they will protect the identity of the complainant. I also want the file they have on me destroyed and I want to know that my phone isn't tapped, et cetera. I am hearing a lot of Out of my Jurisdiction. <o:p></o:p>

Do I also hear jackboots?<o:p></o:p>

Jessica Hughes <o:p></o:p>

<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Lufkin</st1:City>, <st1:State w:st="on">Texas</st1:State></st1:place><o:p></o:p>

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