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Chicken Chat : a novice blunders and wonders
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From: amy  (Original Message)Sent: 9/9/2005 9:00 PM
Hello, all
I am new to the group and to looking after chickens, too.
 I'm here because my son started raising brahmas and went to India for 2 months so now I am in charge of the birds, yet have very little idea of what I'm doing and have encountered some problems already.
First of all, our first chick:
about 10 days ago he started to emerge from the egg. Unfortunately, there were quite a few bees there trying to eat him as he was hatching. My husband did a great big no-no, I lnow, and 'helped' him out of the egg; he claimed otherwise the little guy was a goner for sure.  We put him in a box and warm him with a lamp.  the first four days he seemed to have no use of his left leg, or as if it hadn't unfolded properly; he'd awkwardly limp and fall.  We didn't know if this was a result of the bee stings or coming out of the egg too soon but took the wait and see qpproach and now he walks well.  However, he hardly eats on his own, and is used to being hand fed only.  he also doesn't seem to take water on his own but must take it from my fingers, too.  He seems to get constipated easily (maybe because he doesn't drink water) so I also need to wipe off his tiny bottom with warm water and cotton wool a few times a day to clear the field. 
We tried to put him near his mother and brothers when he was a few days old but he only pecked at everything that moved and his mother rejected him with great aggression, so we understood he must stay in the house for now.
I feel bad that he has no contact with other chickens and thus very little idea of how to behave like a bird.
Do you think we have 'ruined' him with our interventions?  How might I introduce him into a society of chickens?  Meanwhile, how can I get him to eat and drink more on his own? 
Secondly:
the hen that has been setting on eggs:
we have one hen who sits on all the eggs.  We have provided several boxes full of hay or sawdust but everyone lays eggs in the same box and only she sets on them.
She's had 3 hatchlings that lived so far (the little guy I wrote about, above, and 2 more who are with her).
Also here I fear we have interfered too much with nature and don't know how to rectify the situation.....
the original box was quite high and when the chicks got big enough to walk around and scratch for food we moved everyone to a lower box.
In the following days the setting hen killed 3 otherwise healthy and fully formed chicks as they were hatching.
We tried setting up a greater number of boxes and moved all her eggs yet again.  Now she seems to be refusing to set at all...
Is  this our own fault or a normal reaction becasue she is busy with the chicks?  Will it pass on its own if I leave her be or should I be doing something else?
tia -- I anxiously await anyone's replies as I feel things are becoming a bit of a mess!
Amy


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From: MSN NicknameBlackstar333Sent: 9/10/2005 3:16 PM
Hi Amy
Lets see where to begin?
The chick ... to get him to eat and drink on his own he must have a proper environment so make sure he has a a tub or tank or someother safe draft free home with a lamp to keep him warm (but not cook him). Bedding should be shavings not straw or hay.  Place a jar lid full off chick starter on the floor of his home and a proper chick waterer. Place shiny marbles in both the waterer and the feed as this will encourage him to peck and eat. The "pasty bum" is likely from him being too cold or possibly improper food. Keep removing it and you can add a smear of vaseline to the vent area to keep it from building up so bad. But identify and correct the problem.
The brooding hen stops brooding when her first chicks hatch so any leftovers are out of luck. Next time seperate the broody with her clutch of eggs as soon as she starts to set. The eggs don't start to grow chicks till the Mama "sets" then they hatch 21 days later ...if you let other hens lay eggs in the same box then those eggs start growing later and won't hatch at the same time. The Mama must get off the nest and care for the hatchlings so the remaining eggs are doomed. 
The loner chick can be integrated later when he is mature or you can scoop the chicks from the hen and raise them all together then integrate the group back in to the flock.

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From: amySent: 9/10/2005 7:46 PM
Thanks so much; I am relieved to hear some helpful advice from one who knows better than I do how to manage my birds now.
Our motherless chick does have shavings and is kept warm by a lamp -- I think his diet needs improving.  I give him chicken feed but he seems to send it flying with his feet way more than he pecks at with his beak or actually consumes any. I'd mentioned that he most likes to eat from our hands -and this is usually hard boiled egg white or bread soaked in milk.  I fear he's had white bread too often and that must go.
I'll try the marble idea immediately and greatly hope that will attract him to show more interest in his food and water dishes.
How old is "mature" when he might be integrated back into the flock?  He's only 2 weeks old now.
Thanks again for your advice.
Amy

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From: MSN NicknameBlackstar333Sent: 9/10/2005 8:16 PM
Integration will depend on the other birds... how agressive they are and how many and under what kind of conditions they are living. As the other chicks leave the mother and stop sleeping with her then the other one could be introduced I would try to have a smaller pen with in the bigger area for the youngsters to get to know each other in then reintroduce the new group into the older group. (maybe 3-4 months old?) 

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From: amySent: 9/11/2005 8:03 AM

Two other chicks hatched the day after my little black baby -- they were with their mother in the box (I tried to put the little guy in there but the hen rejected him and he pecked like crazy at the other chicks) and have been walking around with their mother for about a week now, with no problem from the other birds.

I have 2 males and 5 females in an enclosed area about 20' x 50'


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