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The Civil War : Confederate Ports
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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5  (Original Message)Sent: 9/5/2004 8:42 PM
Which was the last Confederate seaport to fall to the Unionists and when did it fall ?


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From: MSN NicknameJOJOVERNSent: 9/7/2004 3:25 AM
2 June

Terms of surrender of Galveston were signed on board USS Fort Jackson by Major General E. Kirby Smith on behalf of the Confederacy

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From: MSN NicknameMarkGB5Sent: 9/7/2004 6:50 PM
So they still held at least one seaport at the end of the war in April. I ask because I watched a documentary at the weekend about the discovery and attempted excavation of a British built paddle steamer, the Lelia, which sank on it's maiden voyage in January 1865 a few miles out of Liverpool. It was supposedly carrying arms etc for the Confederates and was making a dash for a Confederate port before the Unionists captured them all. It sank in a storm having set sail in an apparently unfinished condition such was the urgency of the mission.     

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From: MSN NicknameFenian_soldierSent: 3/1/2005 9:44 AM
I think it was Williamington NC, with the fall of fort Fisher and Fort anderson  in Jan and Feb of 1865, but I could be wrong. Charleston SC, would be my 2nd guess. Legionnaire

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From: MSN NicknamePDQuestSent: 3/1/2005 3:15 PM
I'm going to ask a 'what if"  question.  I know lot of you don't like them, but it's the only way I can think of to make my point.
 
If one one the major issues dividing North and South was tariffs., then what would Lincoln have done if the South had accepted goods sent directly to Charleston, Savanah, or Mobile by Europeon nations without paying any tariff to the federal government?     Why didn't the South choose a less violent way of showing their independence if economics was the true underlying issue?

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From: MSN NicknameVA_ConfederateSent: 4/13/2005 6:23 PM
If one one the major issues dividing North and South was tariffs., then what would Lincoln have done if the South had accepted goods sent directly to Charleston, Savanah, or Mobile by Europeon nations without paying any tariff to the federal government?     Why didn't the South choose a less violent way of showing their independence if economics was the true underlying issue?
 
 
What would have kept the federals from collecting import tariffs if goods were received in the South? Imports into the U.S. are imports whether they come into a Northern port or a Southern port.

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From: MSN Nickname-TinCanSent: 4/13/2005 8:27 PM
What if they had seized the customs houses and refused to turn over the tarriffs to the federal government. Might have been worked out in the courts instead of the battlefield.

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From: MSN Nicknamerabbibnw1Sent: 4/13/2005 9:49 PM
Dear VA:
 
    The battle over the tarriff was effective solved during the winter of 1832-1833, when the State of South Carolina declared the Federal tarriff law of 1828--the so-called Tarriff of Abominations--null and void within its borders, and refused to collect it.  President Andrew Jackson responded by federalizing the state militias of the Northern states, declared South Carolina in a state of rebellion, and made plans to send troops south to enforce the law.  In response, in December of 1832, the South Carolina State Legislature passed a secesession (sp?) law, declared their independence from the rest of the United States, and invited other states to join them.
 
    The issue was finally settled through negotiations between South Carolina governor Robert Haynie--a former U.S. Senator, who had debated the issue of slavery and state sovereignty in the Senate with Massachusetts Senator Daniel Webster in 1828-1829--and the Federal government.  The issue was a non-issue by 1860.
 
    The battles and debates that happened between 1833 and Lincoln's election in 1860 completely cleared out the middle ground.  By 1860, the only people left on either side were anti- and pro-slavery people.  Everyone else had either joined one camp or the other, or else had simply shut up and started keeping their heads down.  While slavery was thus not the only issue that brought on the Civil War, it was the last big issue between the two sides, and neither one would budge.  In December 1860, the Southern states began their exodus out of the Union, and in April the shooting war began.
 
    And then came the deluge.
 
Rabbi.

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From: MSN Nicknamerabbibnw1Sent: 4/13/2005 9:51 PM
Dear TC:
 
    South Carolina did that in December 1832.  That's when Jackson threatened to send troops south, and the Civil War almost broke out right there.  Fortunately, that one was settled by negotiation, since at that time neither side really wanted war.  By 1860, neither side could see any other option.
 
Rabbi.

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