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Message 1 of 8 in Discussion

From:

pipedreamslayer1 (Original Message)

Sent: 10/9/2008 4:44 PM

Machiavelli : "People are by nature changeable. It is easy to persuade them about some particular matter, but it is hard to hold them to that persuasion. Hence it is necessary to provide that when they no longer believe, they can be forced to believe."

Behind the mountain,
in a blind valley where the gods lost their balance,
a prince ruled.

It was not a perfect place.
Everything was not always given,
to all that lived there.

Crimes, especially those of greed,
sometimes remained unpunished
and the innocent were, almost always guilty.

The good suffered the worst misfortunes
and those worthy of hatred in other geographies,
here, were loved and adored.

...after a time, the people became restless

However, in this land the wagons always arrived in the nick of time.
Women were given a beauty sufficient to the extent of the desire of their men.
The meat was tender enough to chew and above all the truth was just,
what they all wanted to believe.

Thus,
in the kingdom of this Prince
nobody could, deny
that everythng was fair.

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Message 2 of 8 in Discussion

From: gypsy

Sent: 10/9/2008 6:59 PM

The Marquis has stolen your heart as of late, and you are but a gleeful slave unto his masterminded plan. No longer the god leading the herd, you fall on your knees and kiss the Prince. You walk under his shadow, mesmerized under his spell: an awakening calling your Superman cape to fly with imagination, to show us how you dance with words and where you find your inspiration.

Your veil is off, valiant knight of darkness and despair! Uncork the potion of your magic to partake from one lonely dot of what you have inhaled. Protect us from the sullen eyes of indifference, the bones that have risen from the dead to walk among men of good will, the rascals escaping from 'Pensieri,' for innocence is only lent

for a short time, the illusion of a clock that never tics off a granade.

A friend of the living, of the arts, you grace us with boleros of the mind and trust us with the secrets hidden in-between the lines of what you write. You know you're in good company!

gypsy

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Message 3 of 8 in Discussion

From: wrongsideoftheroad

Sent: 10/9/2008 10:59 PM

there are deeper truths to be harvested here
than the sly edge of irony,
if you only, yes
believe.

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Message 4 of 8 in Discussion

From: _susan_

Sent: 10/10/2008 1:51 AM

1515, Chapter 17

And of all princes ... he ought to be slow to believe and to act,
nor should he himself show fear, but proceed in a temperate manner
with prudence and humanity, so that too much confidence may not

make him incautious and too much distrust render him intolerable.

Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared

or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both,

but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer

to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with....

'The Prince' by Nicolò Machiavelli

Believe in me, with surety.

For I am going to run for congress.

My first bill will do with auditing

all CEOs who have golden parachutes.

These audits will go back for seven years.

And for seven years we will audit.

So spake Joseph of the IRS.

All monies recovered from said audits,

and monies will be recovered,

if you leave it to the IRS,

will be thrown back into the economic infrastructure

heretofore, known as Banking.

Then the SEC, headed by Nicolò, will investigate

those criminal, greedy minds

and throw the key away, to be

swallowed up by the ocean of debt.

They will never see the light of day again.

This is my guarantee.

This is my obligation.

Do not fear.

Do not panic.

Hold on for the bumpy ride,

for I am running for congress--

I have a platform, I have a plan.

Susan

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Message 5 of 8 in Discussion

From:

pipedreamslayer1

Sent: 10/10/2008 4:21 AM

Did you know that famous love-fear lesson was used in the movie "The Bronx Tale"? The kid in the movie aks the gangster if it is better to be loved or feared. Sonny tells the him that he read "The Prince" in the joint and that if he had to choose one over the other, he would choose fear because fear is something he can control.

As for you throwing your hat in the ring with the promise that "you have a platform, you have a plan". Let me remind you of another great ruler, Elizabeth I, who said "We princes are set on stages in the sight and view of all world".
Remember it is all about performing. They only need perceive you have a plan, for you to have a plan.

p.s. I also loved the lesson in that movie about the car test. Are you a keeper Susie?

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Message 6 of 8 in Discussion

From: _susan_

Sent: 10/10/2008 6:02 AM

i never saw the movie, but didn't the kid in it get into trouble or die or something like that -- fairly recently?

am i a keeper? hmm i wouldn't know - you only need perceive i am a keeper, for me to be a keeper.

but again, i didn't see the movie.

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Message 7 of 8 in Discussion

From: _susan_

Sent: 10/10/2008 6:18 AM

i gotta see this movie! hahaha