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Metacriticism : Afraid to fall
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From: Poet_of_dreams  (Original Message)Sent: 7/25/2003 8:44 PM
 
We think that we have all we need.
That our open books minds are easy to read.
We hang our sad heads and sigh.
For we know this is a desperate lie.
How can we walk if we can not crawl?
We cannot move for we are scared to fall.
We do not know what were looking for
or if we even have found it yet
We look for answers across the shore
but hang our heads in sad regret
surely as the sun is meant to rise
we have to face our despereate lies
Everything but has has changed
to make us look both sad and deranged
you ask 'what kind can this be?'
its the kind who strive for liberty
 
We think we have everything we need.
our garden has never met a weed
but we all know this is not true
feel the pain for your brothers and sister too


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From: SusanSent: 7/25/2003 10:35 PM
i still don't know what kind of critique you want, POD.
 
right now, my first impression is that this piece is very sing-song,
and destined to be a hallmark card   of sorts.
 
how would you change it to make it read less like sermonizing
and make it become more like something that will wake me up?
 
susan

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From: mailmanSent: 7/26/2003 12:36 AM
First look at spelling [despereate] I realize some on this site do not attempt to adhere to such conventions, but their writings roll with an unconventional style like snowballs or tumbleweed. It does not appear intentional in this poem.
 
Susan mentions sermonizing, and this impression comes out of this poem like a truck with burned out brakes. You have not incorporated anything for the reader to look at or for. You are using telling words and not showing words: If we hang our heads are we not already sad? To hang a sad head is redundant. Why are we sad? what if you showed the consequence of the unmet expectation signaled by: We think that we have all we need. (In this sentence "that" is extraneous.) There are two lines, only two, that do not sound as if they were extracted from the pulpit. And they begin to show us something, but then go nowhere: We look for answers across the shore  and  our garden has never met a weed.
 
I hope you just keep writing till your fingers ache. Once you get some of the angst out of your system, you'll begin to hear the music that obviously plays in your head as indicated by the desire to rhyme. That music will serve you in your writing.
 
larry

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From: The ProfessorSent: 7/27/2003 6:38 AM
lessee,
irregular scan of four on four
of rhyming couplets
then some ABAB stuff
some more coupling...hmmm
shoot me.
20 line sonnet
I lost it on the second line
"that our open books minds"
or is it "open-book minds"
or maybe "open books mind's"
oh I give up keep your fingers
bloody and your eye on the callous.

Sorry for the brutalizing, but Sue might back me up on this one, if you're gonna post a poem here, this particular board, you're looking for some real criticism and not a pat on the back, I once was told to take a shower and put on clean underwear, you'd better be brave, lil camper...

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From: susannaSent: 7/27/2003 6:58 AM
pod is despereate
to be a laureate,
 
but he's not wreathly ready yet -
i see lots of reading of poetry in his future.
and - there is a definite lack of prufreading skills.
 
susan

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