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From: MSN Nicknamekarasukokoro  (Original Message)Sent: 11/21/2004 12:36 PM

died last life
after an alcoholic spree
suppose he'd come again
 
come back again he...
suppose he'd landed
on a different bank

different with a name the same
suppose i met him on a walk
and stopped momentarily
(to talk)
 
and he said...suppose he told me this
 
though these lives
have brought little bliss
i have known the rapture of many,
 
an empathetic kiss.
 
-ateto mort
11/21/04
 
(critique-wise i have no idea...what to ask for. i just want it to be good. help.)


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From: mailmanSent: 11/23/2004 1:31 AM
 
This doesn't work and I've been trying to figure why. I think the form conflicts with the poem's intent. It wants to portray hard-headedness to return to the narrators kiss, return from his death... The end rhymes of spree/he and walk/talk and bliss/kiss occur outside the stanza giving a sense of connectivity contrary to the form of tercet,tercet, something other and ending in tercet. This may mirror the helter-skelter of alcoholism, but the last line implies a kind of coherence outside the form, almost redemptive. Form can echo a poem and sometimes be discordant.
 
Having been raised by alcoholics and experienced the "geographical cure" I have a stubborn affinity to poems like this.
 
I don't think any of this helps.
 
larry
 

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From: Bloog MandrakeSent: 11/23/2004 4:52 AM
the dead last alcoholic
wanted new life,
woke up on the opposite bank
 
and checked his name tag.
i met him walking and stopped to talk
and he said...well, suppose he told me this
 
'though my lives have been little bliss
i have known the raptures of many'.

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From: _susan_Sent: 11/23/2004 6:19 AM
didn't i just use that word - empathy?
i'm sure i did - somewhere.
 
the context is a little off here, crow.
 
maybe a little reorganization of the poem; maybe start off with:
________________________________________________
 
suppose he'd landed
on a different bank
(to talk)
 
and he said...suppose he told me this
(he...) died last life
after an alcoholic spree
suppose he'd come again
come back again
different with a name the same
 
suppose i met him on a walk
and stopped momentarily (though these lives);
i have known the rapture of many,
 
[and] brought
[a] little bliss,
[a passionate] kiss.
________________________________________________
or something like that.
susan

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From: _susan_Sent: 11/23/2004 6:22 AM
whoops. wrong spacing and one added pronoun at end.
 
suppose he'd landed
on a different bank
(to talk)
 
and he said...suppose he told me this
(he...) died last life
after an alcoholic spree

suppose he'd come again
come back again
different with a name the same
 
suppose i met him on a walk
and stopped momentarily (though these lives);
i have known the rapture of many,
 
[and he] brought
[a] little bliss,
[a passionate] kiss.
 
susan

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From: _susan_Sent: 11/23/2004 6:23 AM
there's supposed to be a line spacing following:
 
after an alcoholic spree
 
so as to keep the form.
 
s.

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