MSN Home  |  My MSN  |  Hotmail
Sign in to Windows Live ID Web Search:   
go to MSNGroups 
Free Forum Hosting
 

Important Announcement Important Announcement
The MSN Groups service will close in February 2009. You can move your group to Multiply, MSN’s partner for online groups. Learn More
The Poets' Place[email protected] 
  
What's New
  
    
    
  Home  
  Message Boards  
  
  General  
  
  Metacriticism  
  
  Sound Poems  
  
  Slate Board  
  
  Member Help  
  
  Collaborations  
  Poets'RadioForum  
  Word Artist  
  Project Nexus  
  Encore Works  
  Previews  
  Pictures  
  Intuitions  
  The Collective  
  Poetic LifeLines  
  The Poet's Poet  
  LIvVE Chat Meet  
  Recommendations  
  Calendar 2008  
  Documents  
  Diversions  
  Search Engines  
  Dictionaries  
  Translators  
  
  
  Tools  
 
Metacriticism : Thresholds
Choose another message board
 
     
Reply
Recommend  Message 1 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsy  (Original Message)Sent: 8/30/2008 7:33 PM
It’s not the tree whose bark falls soft despite
its age.  Though love which flakes may well grow cold,
it’s wisdom’s not the promise here, but You
and I and all we never spoke.  Rite
of passage, drums and trumpets never bold
enough to play the chords or souls of two
who walk apart yet come together, sweet
mysterious thread of ink so pale at life
that’s spent performing tasks in distant shores
where sand accumulates around our feet
and blows away at every step the strife,
banal attempt to close the open doors.
      Opposing poles, the magnet pulls its way,
      and yesterday's a threshold for today.

 
 
gypsy
August 25, 2008


First  Previous  4-18 of 18  Next  Last 
Reply
Recommend  Message 4 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 8/30/2008 11:21 PM
Thresholds

It’s not the tree whose bark falls soft despite
its age.  Though love which flakes may well grow cold,
its wisdom’s not the promise here, but You
and I and all we never spoke.  A rite
of passage, drums and trumpets never bold
enough to play the chords or souls of two
who walk apart yet come together, sweet
mysterious thread of ink so pale at life
that’s spent performing tasks in distant shores
where sand accumulates around our feet
and blows away at ev'ry step the strife,
banal attempt to close the open doors.
Opposing poles, the magnet pulls its way,
and yesterday's a threshold for today.

(better)?
 
Thank you, Gray!  I noticed a short line, too. 
 
Thank you, Susan!  This is a relief, because, almost inevitably, every time I have tried a sonnet, the rhyme pushes itself in this pattern.  (I copied the indention from you )
 
I learn from every comment, and I am so thankful!  I will munch on the 'turn' in the couplet.  I hate to admit it is purely luck on my part.  It is like a trance, and it is harder to impede than to yield.  This is why iambic pentameter (now that I have some idea of what it is) and rhyme pose a challenge to me.  It is not that I favor them, but that this forces me to wiggle, as gypsiwind said, in a straight jacket of sorts. 
 
Also, I will never master the syllable count because I would have to look up every single word.  I do not pronounce ev-e-ry, and have an intrinsic foreigner condition, haha. 
 
I babble, too!
 
It touches me to see dedication to any form of art, and that you stop to be of help to me is most humbling.
 
gypsy

Reply
Recommend  Message 5 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 8/30/2008 11:38 PM
is it    myst-er-i-ous  ??   ayayay if it is!  to me, mys-te-rious..  or myst-er-ious   hahahhaha

Reply
Recommend  Message 6 of 18 in Discussion 
From: _susan_Sent: 8/31/2008 2:43 AM
mysterious thread of ink so pale at life

 

still 1 too many.

you could substitute a comma for "so"?

s.



Reply
Recommend  Message 7 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 8/31/2008 2:54 AM
 
Thresholds

It’s not the tree whose bark falls soft despite
its age.  Though love which flakes may well grow cold,
its wisdom’s not the promise here, but You
and I and all we never spoke.  A rite
of passage, drums and trumpets never bold
enough to play the chords or souls of two
who walk apart yet come together, sweet
enigma, thread of ink so pale at life
that’s spent performing tasks in distant shores
where sand accumulates around our feet
and blows away at ev'ry step the strife,
banal attempt to close the open doors.
Opposing poles, the magnet pulls its way,
and yesterday's a threshold for today.
 
(how's this?  I thought dropping 'so' would leave two strong ones, 'ink, pale' together)??  Not sure about 'enigma.'  This is where I begin to feel anxiety, and, when painting, a woman is left with one arm or one hand). 

Reply
Recommend  Message 8 of 18 in Discussion 
From: _susan_Sent: 8/31/2008 2:59 AM
i like it.
enigma
makes more sense.

Reply
Recommend  Message 9 of 18 in Discussion 
From: _susan_Sent: 8/31/2008 3:01 AM
punctuation very helpful.

Reply
Recommend  Message 10 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 8/31/2008 3:05 AM
Thank you, Susan! 

Reply
The number of members that recommended this message. 0 recommendations  Message 11 of 18 in Discussion 
Sent: 8/31/2008 3:32 AM
This message has been deleted by the author.

Reply
Recommend  Message 12 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN Nicknamejaniew46Sent: 9/1/2008 11:18 AM
This is lovely Gypsy; it shows me, again, that I have soooo much to learn... It scares me a bit/lot. Rythms, word-patterns, styles and...I  will have to get very busy with the dictionary. Janie
 

Reply
Recommend  Message 13 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGrayling55Sent: 9/1/2008 2:13 PM
I'm being dense here, gypsy, but I still have trouble with that line
 
mysterious thread of ink so pale at life
that’s spent performing tasks in distant shores
 
It's the at that's throwing me. I can't seem to reconcile it with both lines.
Also having a hard time explaining myself.
 
I like this very much.
 
gray
 
 
 
 

Reply
The number of members that recommended this message. 0 recommendations  Message 14 of 18 in Discussion 
Sent: 9/1/2008 8:46 PM
This message has been deleted by the author.

Reply
Recommend  Message 15 of 18 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameGrayling55Sent: 9/1/2008 9:02 PM
thank you gypsy. Don't think my lack of understanding is a fault of your writing.
Sometimes it's just me, like here. This works well, even jacketed in form as it is.
 
thanks for your patient explanation.
 
gray

Reply
The number of members that recommended this message. 0 recommendations  Message 16 of 18 in Discussion 
Sent: 9/1/2008 9:06 PM
This message has been deleted by the author.

Reply
Recommend  Message 17 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 9/1/2008 9:11 PM
pardon me, today i'm boiling,   off to paint..  i see hurricane hanna menacing now..  eyes back to florida,  too lazy for caps...  boo

Reply
Recommend  Message 18 of 18 in Discussion 
From: gypsySent: 9/2/2008 3:19 AM
I'm so sorry, Grayling, Janie..  I meant to delete my second response, which was a dissertation completely out of focus.. 
 
No, Grayling, your questions are always valid.  I, often, do not know with exactitude what I am talking or writing about.  In real life, few follow my jumping bean logic.  Keep me on my toes! 
 
Janie, you must know you are more apt with the pen than you say!
 
Ok, hope this redeems me.  I'm in a terrible mood.  I also need not be waiting for Hanna.
 
 

First  Previous  4-18 of 18  Next  Last 
Return to Metacriticism