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From: bluesky  (Original Message)Sent: 11/29/2008 7:07 AM
gold should drop 10-15%
 


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From: blueskySent: 12/3/2008 12:08 PM
New York Metals exchange opens at 8 am est...........and gold  bullion will be ....slaughtered today.......the bush man  has 666 printed on everything

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From: MSN NicknameArmchairConstantSent: 12/3/2008 12:27 PM
Almost time to buy gold

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From: blueskySent: 12/3/2008 3:41 PM
wait till gld and the DJIA kiss........but its further down i think......its down to kiss the japan yen in no no land

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From: MSN NicknameWulfgar602Sent: 12/3/2008 6:25 PM
"and the chart spoke and the price of gold dropped right on cue

for since march 2008.....gold GLD has been wrapping round the DJIA

for that is the way of the manuipulators"

Yes Blueski, but I sold some gold in March without referring to charts! But simply studying the WGC stats.

(what is very worrying is that the price of platinum fell 7% this morning, platinum is always 2x the price of gold...but now it is the same price as gold)

Gold and platinum were about the same price during the last great gold bull. No surprises here.

Platinum is 10x rarer than gold. But gold is in demand!

"It appears that gold will fall to $400......as the USA dollar strengthens.......and the USA exports more T bills".

$400 now? What happened to $550?

You can have "$400" gold, if you can find the physical tonnage. That means finding an additional 2,000 tons per annum for the jewelery market.
The Jewelery market can't make bling from paper!


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From: $TANLEY LIVING$TONSent: 12/4/2008 7:42 PM
the euro just ran all your stops last night BLUE.
now what?

:)

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From: MSN NicknameArmchairConstantSent: 12/4/2008 11:58 PM


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From: blueskySent: 12/5/2008 5:40 AM
GOLD price should drop to kiss EURO.......................
 
and thats a long way down
 


 

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From: blueskySent: 12/5/2008 4:25 PM
DOWN
 
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From: blueskySent: 12/9/2008 2:33 AM
for the last 9 months gold bullion and the DJIA have been dancing together.....at the same ratio as in 1955........................
 
gold is just another DJIA stock

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From: MSN NicknameWulfgar602Sent: 12/9/2008 5:09 PM
When do we start shorting US treasuries Blue?

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From: MSN Nicknamesportstarr10Sent: 12/9/2008 7:12 PM

Won't be Long Wulf ... Jest wait 'til that Trillion $$$ Stimulus Package comes along ...

U.S. Hyperinflation Right Around the Corner?

"Hell, everybody with any brains knows that if the government keeps creating more and more money and credit, then consumer prices will rise exponentially and the economy will be ruined, just like Zimbabwe today�?

Ed Steer of CaseyResearch.com writes, "I see in a Reuters story that home prices plummeted a record 17.4% in September from a year earlier…and the US government was providing more free money to more banks. So, what else is new? More money out of thin air. Late in 2007 it was tens of billions per week. By the end of the first quarter of 2008, it was hundreds of billions per week…and starting about a month ago, it's been a trillion dollars or more per week."

Naturally, I am thinking to myself that not only have I heard all of this stuff before, but I have spent a lot of time talking about it myself, mostly mumbling under my breath to my imaginary friends and people who dare to sit next to me.

So I am not prepared when Mr. Steer asks, "Is hyperinflation heading our way?"

Naturally, I am flattered that he should ask my opinion! I say, "Hell, yes, we are going to have hyperinflation if the damned government keeps creating more money and credit to feed the bubbles", first citing the example of Zimbabwe, and which I was going to use as a conversational springboard to seamlessly segue into how the whole last 4,000 years of human history has proven that gold is the only asset to own when a government is creating so much money and credit that everything else will turn to, in a word, crap.

Then I find, to my chagrin, that he is not asking my opinion at all, and was merely being rhetorical as a way of introducing the fact that "John Williams over at shadowstats.com sure thinks so", which made me realize that I could recover from my embarrassment and again seize control of the conversation by saying, "Me, too! I expect hyperinflation, too! Hell, everybody with any brains knows that if the government keeps creating more and more money and credit, then consumer prices will rise exponentially and the economy will be ruined, just like Zimbabwe today, and just like every other example in all of history where a stupid bunch of governmental dirtbags created too much money!"

But I never got a chance to say anything, which is probably good because I was stunned to speechlessness when he went on that Mr. Williams expects hyperinflation "within the next 18 months." Yikes!

I look at this "18 months" thing, and I look at all the unbelievable trillions of dollars being created per month, and then I remember that there is always a lag between the time when a huge supply of money enters the economy and when it affects prices, which is somewhere between 9 months and a year and a half or so, and I shudder.

Even more than that, if we do get hyperinflation in 18 months, then at 17 months, inflation will have been extremely, extremely high, but not hyperinflationary. And at 16 months, inflation would have been extremely high, but not hyperinflationary. And at 15 months, inflation would have been very high, but definitely not hyperinflationary. And at 14 months, inflation would have been high, but very definitely not hyperinflationary.

I could go on through the other months, and I would, too, if I was getting paid by the word to write this Stupid Mogambo Crap (SMC), but I am not, and so I will not, but will, instead, entertain you with my latest hit tune "Boom boom boom, we're freaking doomed!"

This musical gem starts with a drum going "boom, boom, boom", getting the driving beat going really good, and then I wail at the top of my voice (to convey desperation and panic), "We're freaking doooooooommmed!", boom, boom, boom, "Too much new money and credit means", boom, boom, boom, "Inflation out the wazoo!", boom, boom, boom, "We're freaking doooooooommmed!" boom, boom, boom.

And perhaps with a catchy hit song with an infectious beat, people will learn about inflation all over again, and why the Founding Fathers wrote into the Constitution that money will be only of silver and gold, which they did solely to prevent the government from letting the banks increase the money supply, which causes inflation in prices.

But I realize that my tune will be a flop, as apparently people have to always learn the lesson of inflation by suffering because, as Mark Twain said about trying to carry a cat home by its tail, "it is a lesson that can be learned no other way."

The MOGAMBO GURU, for The Daily Reckoning
by Richard Daughty

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Daughty/dec082008.html


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From: MSN Nicknamesportstarr10Sent: 12/10/2008 11:38 AM

Interest rate on US T-bills turns negative

By Michael Mackenzie in New York

Published: December 9 2008 23:27 | Last updated: December 9 2008 23:27

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Nervous investors on Tuesday paid for the privilege of owning US government debt, pushing interest rates on three-month Treasury bills to negative levels for the first time in postwar history.

The implied yield for three-month bills briefly traded at negative 0.01 per cent �?the first time that has happened since 1940, traders said. At such a level, an investor is essentially paying someone to own the security

The flight to safety helped the Treasury sell $30bn in four-week bills at a discount rate of zero per cent for the first time. That auction followed the sale of $27bn in three-month bills at a discount rate of 0.005 per cent on Monday.

Ted Wieseman, economist at Morgan Stanley, said that “demand for cash remained extreme�?and described the result of the four-week sale as “absurd�?

Investors have placed $100bn in institutional money market funds in the last month, boosting demand for Treasury bills. The scramble for government debt also reflects end-of-the-year “window dressing�?by fund managers who try to send a reassuring signal to investors by holding large amounts of safe-haven assets such at Treasury bills when they publish their accounts.

“Some funds have guidelines that require them to own Treasuries,�?said Jay Mueller, portfolio manager at Wells Capital Management.

The implied yield for four-week bills briefly traded at negative levels in October after a prominent money market fund lost money as a result of the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers.

Bills have been trading well below 1 per cent in recent weeks, and even the Federal Reserve’s overnight rate has slipped close to zero per cent. On Tuesday, the effective Fed funds rate was quoted at 1/16th, or 0.0625 per cent, below its target rate of 1 per cent.

In Tuesday’s action, demand for the new four-week bill was 4.2 times the supply, well above the average of 2.87 times in the previous nine weekly sales. Non-dealers bought nearly half of the issue. Demand was also strong at 3.3 times for this week’s sale of three-month bills.

Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2008

 

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From: MSN NicknameArmchairConstantSent: 12/10/2008 8:18 PM
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From: <NOBR>MSN NicknameArmchairConstant</NOBR> Sent: 12/3/2008 7:27 AM
Almost time to buy gold


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From: MSN NicknameWulfgar602Sent: 12/11/2008 6:44 AM
Well I did we where heading that way. In the future the creditor will pay the borrower interest on the loan.
I guess we can all borrow money and sit on our ass for the sake of it.

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From: MSN Nicknamesportstarr10Sent: 12/11/2008 12:33 PM
That is IF the Banksters Ever start lending again. Strange, I know of homes that are going for 25% of what they were last sold for & qualified buyers still can't aquire the newly printed cash to purchase them. Florida has even lowered the taxable values on the homes there.

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