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From: MSN NicknameLazarusUsa  (Original Message)Sent: 2/8/2008 7:55 PM
AROUND THE NATION: GUN BRIEFS
 
On 18 March, the justices of the Supreme Court will hear arguments in District
of Columbia v. Heller, a case that could decide once and for all whether the
Second Amendment to the Constitution supports an individual right
use of firearms or merely a collective right to militias. Unfortunately, the
Bush administration's stance on the issue became murkier when U.S. Solicitor
General Paul Clement submitted a brief to the Supreme Court arguing that the
U.S. Court of Appeals had erred in striking down DC's handgun ban. The Bush
administration managed to affirm the individual-right interpretation of the 2nd
Amendment while also condemning the previous ruling of the Court of Appeals,
since it jeopardizes the government's ability to regulate firearms. In other
words, the administration is fine with individual ownership of firearms so
long as the federal government can decide which firearms you can own and
where you can take them. The solicitor general's brief asks the Supreme Court
to return District of Columbia v. Heller to a lower court, where instead of
flatly declaring that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right
to keep and bear arms, the court should rule that the Second Amendment gives
you the rights that the government wants you to have.
 
On the other hand, The Washington Post reports, "A majority of the Senate and
more than half of the members of the House will file a brief today urging the
Supreme Court to uphold a ruling that the District's handgun ban violates the
Second Amendment." The brief notes, "This court should give due deference
to the repeated findings over different historical epochs by Congress, a
co-equal branch of government, that the amendment guarantees the personal
right to possess firearms." It continues, "The District's prohibitions on
mere possession by law-abiding persons of handguns in the home and having
usable firearms there are unreasonable."


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From: SargeSent: 2/10/2008 9:47 AM
Sounds like some politicians finally have figured out where their votes are coming from. I sure hope it works. And Bush letting that brief be filed is the last straw as far as I am concerned.
As another thought, I wonder if Mc Cain wins he will ask Romney or Huckibee to be his vice president? If it is Huckibee we could have him as president after all. Cause Mc Cain is 75 yrs old and has health problems. Unless it is from that young wife of his.
Sarge

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From: SteveSent: 2/10/2008 6:05 PM
I just wish the government would quit trying to outlaw classes of guns....I do not trust McCain with gun laws, and there is no sanity on the Democrat side with respect to guns. We are looking at a dismal period for the USA next four years.....

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From: MSN Nickname444HalSent: 2/10/2008 11:30 PM

I think they’ll be too busy with other troubles to do much damage to the 2nd Admement .

First they wont have George to bash & blame for everything anymore, forcing them to actually do something to keep their jobs. And you know they’ll have to have one hell of a big government give away to "their" supporters or risk riots. That means higher taxes, causing a crashing economy on top of this sub-prime mortgage scam that’s already got us on the edge of a recession. Can you say "DEPRESSION" ? It may not be such a bad word. The economy & society, like in nature, needs to "reset" itself now & then. In nature it’s stuff like storms & forest fires. Never easy, never pretty, but it does need to be done.

Then there’s the illegal immigrant giveaway. In their quest to beef up their power base to stay in office they will have to appease those illegals with free citizenships & Government moneys & programs. And don’t think that the (now) not so illegals now has all this political clout they’re going to settle for just equal pay. I’m sure there’s plenty of low level politicians & Hispanic "radicals" that’ll see the opportunity to break into the big time by convincing "their people" they should be getting concessions for all those years they were underpaid & abused by the Gringos. "No justice, no peace"

Sound familiar ?

And what about those terrorist ? We’ll be going back to the days of "if we’re nice to them, they’ll be nice to us". Never mind that their "prime directive is "to kill as many infidels as they can", no exceptions. Shame we’ll be losing a lot of good innocent people in the terrorist free for all that’s going to happen. Just give me enough time to move to a less densely populated part of the country.

No they'll be too buisy to do much about our guns. It’s going to be one rough ride, but I guess it has to happen. And we’ll survive.


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From: MSN NicknameLazarusUsaSent: 2/15/2008 5:14 PM
Vice President Dick Cheney broke with his own administration last week when he
signed onto a Supreme Court brief filed by a majority of Congress instead of
the brief filed by President Bush's own solicitor general. The Amicus Curiae
brief filed by Congress asks the Supreme Court to uphold a lower-court ruling
that affirmed the Second Amendment as an individual right and declared the
District of Columbia's handgun ban to be unconstitutional. Vice President
Cheney signed the brief as "President of the United States Senate, Richard
B. Cheney," a rarely used title that denotes the vice president's dual role as
member of both the executive and legislative branches. Legal experts believe
this may be the first time in history that a vice president has gone against
his own administration in an Amicus Curiae brief. It seems that Vice President
Cheney sensed---as we did---that the brief filed by the Bush administration was
gutless and indecisive. According to Cheney's press secretary, Megan Mitchell,
"The Vice President believes strongly in the Second Amendment." Apparently,
so do 55 senators and 250 House members, a number that NRA Vice President
Wayne LaPierre says should send "a historical message to the court." We can
only hope.
 
As the Supreme Court considers the constitutional right to bear arms
in DC, those on college campuses are also still denied the right. And
once again, a murderous psychopath ignored the "gun-free
people Thursday---this time at Northern Illinois University. Unarmed students
and professors were helpless until police arrived, by which time the shooter
had determined that he was done and killed himself.

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From: MSN NicknameLazarusUsaSent: 2/15/2008 5:15 PM
When it comes to gun control and its advocates, examples of hypocrisy
abound. There is Sarah Brady of the Brady Campaign, who once purchased
a Remington.30-06 rifle for her son as a Christmas present. There are
entertainers like Rosie O'Donnell and Oprah Winfrey, who speak out about the
evils of gun ownership under the protection of their armed guards. There is
anti-gun Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Ca.), who holds one of the only concealed
weapon permits in San Francisco. There is New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin, who
confiscated guns after Hurricane Katrina but thinks a photo op
is funny. And then there is Josh Sugarmann, gun-control activist and... gun
dealer?
 
Sugarmann is the founder and executive director of the Violence Policy
Center, a Washington lobby dedicated to banning handguns and semi-automatic
weapons. Among other things, Sugarmann is notorious for coining the misleading
term "assault weapon" and writing inane rants for the Huffington Post, but he
also seems to have a side business, or at least a permit for one. According
to the website of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, a
federal firearms license (FFL) is registered to one Joshua Alan Sugarmann at
the same Washington, DC, address as the headquarters of the Violence Policy
Center. The federal government requires that all gun dealers obtain an FFL
before buying, selling and manufacturing firearms.
 
We're not quite sure what to make of this, except that maybe Josh Sugarmann
foresees a booming gun business in the District of Columbia if the Supreme
Court affirms the individual right interpretation of the Second
year in District of Columbia v. Heller. Or maybe he's merely Sen. Feinstein's
private gun dealer. Whatever the case, it can't be easy selling guns in a
dry county.

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From: MSN Nicknamecompshooter223Sent: 2/16/2008 6:33 PM
I wonder if sugarman got the ffl just so he can show how "easy" it is to aquire an ffl?

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