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General : The Social Experiment  
     
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From: MSN Nicknamearak1547  (Original Message)Sent: 3/23/2008 11:52 AM
The Social Experiment
 
I find it interesting, now that I'm actually living in a state that I would never choose to live in voluntarily, how different the laws and social views are from my state of residence. I personally find it discerning that California has rebuked the Constitution's Second Amendment at every level imaginable and has injected it's own brand of political correctness. For example, I received an email from the NRA the other day informing me of how California is considering a bill that will limit the amount and type of ammunition a person can buy. The new law will require a person to "register" their ammunition with the state every time they buy, and in effect, will limit how much ammo (30 rounds per month) they can purchase. The state will essentially be communicating to the average Californian that they can only buy 30 rounds of ammunition per month, it has to be registered, and that they don't really trust them to make rational decisions regarding their own welfare. WTF?? I also noticed tonight that California prison systems are classified as "rehab" facilities. How can that be? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought prison was supposed to be punitive and not rehabilitative. (is that even a freakin' word?) The impression I'm getting is that California is fast becoming some social experiment for left wing elitists like Dianne Feinstein to the point that all rational people have left the state. There has got to be some defining moment where respectable Californians say, "I've had enough and I'm not going to take it any more!"


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From: MSN NicknamearmouredtrooperSent: 3/23/2008 3:45 PM
Arak,
 That problem has been going on up in kommunist kanada for years. Our penal system does the same damn thing! Cons are rehabilitated and not punnished as they should be. The A$$%@les who killed my stepson are being rehabilitated and not punnished. The powers that be say there are two systems up here. One is the Justice system and the other is the Legal system, and they often work against each other to the point that most perps get away with murder.
 Trooper


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From: MSN Nicknamearak1547Sent: 3/24/2008 6:38 AM
That's a shame. Sorry to hear about your stepson. Hopefully there is such a thing as Karma and what goes around will come around to the guy who did it.

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From: krazyjoeSent: 4/1/2008 7:57 PM
What about reloading

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From: MSN NicknameShovelhead8080Sent: 4/9/2008 8:38 PM
I think that now in Calif. you can be put in prison yourself for what you are thinking. Of course a real criminal will have to be turned loose to make room for the likes of you gun owners.

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From: MSN NicknameWhirdervi1Sent: 4/14/2008 12:38 AM
At least you get free health care in prison, courtesy of the tax payers.

Though really, "rehabilitation" has just been added to the title to make the title more fuzzy and feel good (they do have the standard alcohol/drug rehabilitation programs). At least some prisons, like Pelican Bay, aren't the least bit fuzzy and nice, and I can't imagine anyone wanted to be put there even if they didn't have a life outside of prison.

Though then again, Pelican Bay is supposed to have a "nice wing" where they house nonviolent offenders which they use as slave labor. When the state needs some work done, they round up some good slave types (pot smokers are ideal) and get them imprisoned, and then they're put to work. As long as they do as they're told, their pens are decent, for prison. If they rebel, then they get put with the hardcore rapists, murderers, and thugs for awhile to see if that doesn't improve their attitude. I'm sure people like Stalin consider such tactics "soft," but I don't.

OTOH, the 9th circuit of CA is so notoriously, and idiotically, in support of prisoners, that even hardcore thugs are gladdened by it...and I hear that the defense for Saddam actually tried to appeal specifically to the 9th circuit (I read this on Martin's Law Blog, IIRC).

I think the 9th circuit just enjoys victims. There was a little girl that was placed in a foster home due to horrendous abuse. A social worker talks to the father without reading the reports or doing anything else, and on that alone, has the girl returned to the father, where he almost immediately stabs her several times. An attorney sued the department that had returned her on behalf of the little girl and the 9th circuit gave the social worker "qualified immunity."

They're evil. Absolutely evil. They'll defend rapists, they'll defend thugs, they'll defend social workers like that, they probably would've defended Saddam, but people who try to defend themselves from the thugs they empower are SOL, even if they're declared criminals/vigilantes for having done so. I believe they're appointed rather than elected by the people.

Oh, yes....until recently, a father who sexually molested his children was given an exemption to "keep the family together." That is, the courts did everything to keep the father out of prison and in the family. In at least one case I read of, a girl struggled from being returned and had to be dragged before her father by cops and threatened to be locked up in juvie (and he went on abusing her).

In contrast, other parents lose their children for even having their house too dirty!

Likewise, a guy was recently busted for trying to lure a 14-year-old into his grasp (actually an undercover cop) and was given over 20 years. It was pointed out that had he actually just jumped a 14-year-old at random and raped her, he'd have gotten less than 10.

It's so messed up, and what I mention is just the tip of the ice burg.

Oh, and there was this rapist that had raped over 20 times being released YET AGAIN. This wasn't just CA, this guy had rap sheets across the USA. The law said he could not be released anywhere within a certain range of one of his victims, and that meant that there was NO PLACE to release him. He was going to be released anyway in Oregon and masked vigilantes threatened prison officials or something (I just heard about this part, so I don't know the details). So they had him transferred to CA where he was released shortly after on the streets of Sacremento, where one of his former victims lived.

And the nastiness I saw in San Francisco, I can understand why the majority of people would be against guns. Not because guns are bad, but because they're bad people that would get shot if they acted like that all the time in Texas. (Granted, there are good people in Frisco, they just came off as the minority to me.)

And one memory that won't leave was when I was in San Diego (a fairly decent city overall, IMO, at least for CA), I waited for the WALK sign. A car about to turn didn't, but I didn't ask why. When I got the WALK, I crossed and THEN the car turned and I had to jump back onto the sidewalk to avoid being run over. The car was full of Latino men speaking menacingly to me in Spanish out the windows (I understood very little, but what little I understood, and the tone, was definitely sexual and menacing) as they very slowly drove by. I quickly glanced around and EVERYONE had turned their head away, and cars just drove around the carload of men, so I was alone on a busy street in broad daylight. I was armed, and that was the only thing that kept me from running, and I hid my fear beneath a glare of disdain. I still wonder that if I'd ran, as I'd wanted to do (and would've if I hadn't been armed), if they'd have chased me. If they had, and dragged me into their car and sped off, they'd have gotten away with it,because after they left, I continued walking on my way, badly shaken, and not a single cop even so much as passed, so I'm believing that not only did everyone turn away, they refused to even call 911 on my behalf. Damn them if they think I'm gonna give up my gun in where even a city I consider half-way decent that a carload of men can menace women on crowded city streets and broad daylight and GET AWAY WITH IT without so much as a good samaritan calling 911.

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