A near miss with a .30 is still a near miss...recommend you folks look up www.rwva.org for their Appleseed weekends. Just peachy training, and I had read Fred's tirades in the Shotgun News for the past two years before I found an Appleseed near home. Two days training for $70, and you quit missing. A dead on hit beats a near miss anyday, and especially if we "bitter gun owners" have to take our country back from elitist Democrats too hateful of America to wear an American flag on the lapel or hold his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. I am asking the Democrats to take McCain as their nominee so we Repubs can try again...