Esther McVey's resignation
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Fretful_Porpentine

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:09 pm    Post subject:    

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Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.
 
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jackieL

 

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[quote="Fretful_Porpentine"]Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.[/quote]
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Yes. I think it's in that long thread started by Nbrado. I'll dig around for it.
 
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ShuBob

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:11 pm    Post subject:    

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I have very little doubt that this story is true!
 
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Fretful_Porpentine

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:12 pm    Post subject:    

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Thanks

I think these fund director resignations are important, and that the Met3 farce may be at the bottom of it.
 
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redsquare

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="Fretful_Porpentine"]Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.[/quote]

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??? Are you sure? So why are they bleating about the money running out? Where is it going?
 
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ShuBob

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="Fretful_Porpentine"]Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.[/quote]

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Indeed and she also famously denied that the McCanns had asked to use the Fund to fund their legal case!
 
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Fretful_Porpentine

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:17 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="ShuBob"][quote="Fretful_Porpentine"]Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.[/quote]

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Indeed and she also famously denied that the McCanns had asked to use the Fund to fund their legal case![/quote]

It now seems that Met 3 were subcontracting someone (Hogan?) to do what was essentially legal grunt work on witness statements. I doubt this was the most egregious use of funds either.
 
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diddy

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:20 pm    Post subject:    

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That piece seems quite damning.
On the face of it, I don´t understand why they money to look for Madeleine.
Apart from the fact that she is more than likely no longer alive, it´s up to the police to look for her.
The "detectives" they hired fared no better.
If they want to keep publicity up so that she is not forgotten, I understand that to a point, but as time goes on, there is less chance of her being alive, less chance of her being spotted, and apart from the "eye defect", it won´t be that long before she has perhaps changed beyond recognition of any photo, so that even that sort of publicity unfortunately becomes worthless.
So in some ways, I don´t understand what they "need" more money for.
Anybody know why people have resigned from the board?
Is it the film, perhaps?
 
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jomk2

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject:    

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I don't believe the resignations will be to do with Met3, in which case they would have occurred way back. This is eitherto do with the blood in the car being Madeleines or something we don't know about yet.

It's also very encouraging news, it shows cracks have formed in the Ivory Tower at last and are now big enough to result in people bailing out of the McCann bubble. From here it is only one step to seeing any of the Tapas 9 break ranks.

project save@ss is now in effect! 
 
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Blamhappy

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject:    

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I think you're right, jom. It's probably the blood in the car. Other things can be explained, but the blood is damning. Even a friend of the McCanns would be questioning things after that.
 
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IrishEyes

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:22 pm    Post subject:    

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I think the movie deal is a smoke screen for the fact that board members have resigned. Mitchel knows that the movie deal will cause an uproar and take the heat off the resignations.
Note how they want the arguido status lifted so that they can get sympathy money rolling in.  
 
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jackieL

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="ShuBob"][quote="Fretful_Porpentine"]Didn't Esther McVey confirm to own of the Mirror posters that the fund was not being used to fund Met3? Anyone else recall this? Somewhere around October I think.[/quote]

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Indeed and she also famously denied that the McCanns had asked to use the Fund to fund their legal case![/quote]
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I've just bumped the Thread which refers to this. On page 22 on 8th November, you'll see bjr quoting Nbrado as follows:

bjr says: <<Nbrado has made his telephone call to Esther McVey re the Fund and information of call is posted below. Thanks Nbrado.

**RESULT**

I have spoken with esther this morning.

The original number she gave me kept going through to an answerphone I went through to the switchboard and waited on hold... this time we spoke.

There is no recording of the call as esther could not agree to this and personally I do not blame her.

I raised my initial question regarding why there was an omission of the fact that the mortgage payments had been stopped when their status changed.

Esther did not comment on why it was omitted but went through the fund guideline information and basically pointed out that it was ok up to the point they changed status to use the fund money to pay such things.

nothing we didnt already know just the legal stance stance that in the guideline under supporting the family it was ok to use the money up until the point that their legal status changed.

she told me that at no point did gerry and kate ask for money.

I raised the point that gerry found it frustrating not to be able to use the money for legal defence and therefore would suggest that HE or someone asked.

esthers response was he must have been taken out of context by the reporter.

make of that what you will.

Next I raised the question how do we get a refund.

Esthers answer was

" I do not want to give anyone false hope but I honestly dont know "

She does not know at this time the standing for people to get a refund however she is having a board meeting on the 14th of november and has promised to raise the question and formulate a response to those wishing to obtain one.

She did point out obviously that anyone seeking a refund would have to provide proof they donated but at this time she again stated she does not know yet but will on the 14th how the public can make a request of a refund.

Esther actually asked me a question!

why do people feel they need a refund what have they been saying.

I told her that its a moral issue and that people expected the money to fund a search not a mortgage and the hiring of companies that do not specialise in missing persons has people upset.

her answer to this was that brian kennedy and richard branson are footing the bill for the investigators at the spanish phone company and current campaign actions in process.

so officially people brian and richard are paying ALL bills at the moment not the fund.

I thanked her for her time and she will contact me after the 14th to advise what the fund board situation is on refunds.

until then as esther said no false hope people...>>
 
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biryana

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="urcrazy"]We have no idea if it's true.

Does it not strike anyone as a bit odd that they would release this ifno, and no-one picks up on it?[/quote]

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[qote="redsquare"] Possibly because the murky inhabitants of the media and PR worlds are as thick as thieves.

I absolutely agree redsquare. There is total silence from both BBC and ITV news regarding anything to do with the McCanns. When it was anounced a few days ago that they were still the prime suspects at the 8 month stage and that their arguido status was not going to be lifted there was not even a mention. Instead we had bulletin after bulletin showing Britney Spears being carted off to hospital. I know which item I would consider to be of most importance to the British public and it ain't Britney Spears.
 
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Billie3

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:30 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="IrishEyes"]I think the movie deal is a smoke screen for the fact that board members have resigned. Mitchel knows that the movie deal will cause an uproar and take the heat off the resignations.
Note how they want the arguido status lifted so that they can get sympathy money rolling in.  [/quote]

Sympathy money? Don't bet on it! 
 
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radiolady

 

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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:31 pm    Post subject:    

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[quote="biryana"][quote="urcrazy"]We have no idea if it's true.

Does it not strike anyone as a bit odd that they would release this ifno, and no-one picks up on it?[/quote]

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[qote="redsquare"] Possibly because the murky inhabitants of the media and PR worlds are as thick as thieves.

I absolutely agree redsquare. There is total silence from both BBC and ITV news regarding anything to do with the McCanns. When it was anounced a few days ago that they were still the prime suspects at the 8 month stage and that their arguido status was not going to be lifted there was not even a mention. Instead we had bulletin after bulletin showing Britney Spears being carted off to hospital. I know which item I would consider to be of most importance to the British public and it ain't Britney Spears.[/quote]

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But you also have to understand that as there is such a washing machine of spin going on, editors are as spun out as the rest of us....they are now at the stage of saying "with so much hearsay and rumour about we are staying clear until something comes from the mouth of the PJ or the McCanns'.
 
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