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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_  (Original Message)Sent: 1/26/2008 6:47 PM
 
Please notice the date in the upper right corner.
 
From: <NOBR>MSN Nickname_MrWonder_</NOBR>  (Original Message) Sent: 3/2/2007 2:02 PM
One Lord--One Faith--One Baptism
 
There are many that are called "lords" in the Bible.  There are numerous "faiths".  There are five or so "baptisms".
 
But in Ephesians, the apostle writes that there is "One Lord, one faith, and one baptism..."
 
What does he mean?  He means:
 
  • One Lord--There is one Lord who gives salvation--the Lord Jesus Christ
  • One Faith--There is one faith that receives salvation--faith in the Lord Jesus Christ
  • One Baptism--There is one baptism that bestows salvation--baptism by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Jesus Christ--believers of all time--the Church

Water baptism does not save.  Speaking in tongues does not saved.

Question:  How shall I be saved?

Answer:  Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved...  (Acts 16.31).

Question:  How shall I receive eternal life?

Answer:  ...he that believes on Me has everlasting life (John 6.47).

Question:  Can you sum up how to be saved?

Answer:  By grace are ye saved, through faith, and that not of yourselves--it is the gift of God--not of works lest any man should boast.

Let no one deceive you.

BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou SHALT BE SAVED.

 

©2007 MrWonder. All rights reserved. 



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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 1/26/2008 6:49 PM
Actually the date is below the upper right corner.
 
You see, you don't know me, Cindy.  You don't know that I have fought against salvation by water baptism for years on many sites on the internet.
 
You don't know that I have quoted 1 Cor. 12.13 probably more times on the internet than any human alive.
 
You don't know anything about the person you are trying to "convert".

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From: MSN NicknamewedgewoodthymeSent: 1/27/2008 12:24 AM
You are right.  I don't know anything about you.... just as you don't know anything about me.
 
Did you think I was trying to "convert" anyone.  That isn't my Job.  That is the Word's Job.
 
1 Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
 
Salvation is instant... it happens the moment we believe.  Coming unto the knowledge of the truth takes time and study.
 
I thought that is what we were doing.  Taking the time to study it out together.
 
Doz... Happy Birthday, which ever of those dates, was your birthday.
 
In Christ,
Cindy
 
 
 

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 1/27/2008 1:47 AM
Cindy, I'm just saying you have no idea how hard I have fought water baptism regeneration.  You should understand that before you assume my ignorance.

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From: MSN NicknamewedgewoodthymeSent: 1/27/2008 2:15 PM

Dear Doz,

Until March 2, you and I are the same age. I turned 53 in December.

In response to some of your comments.

I do think you are holding to some doctrines without thought to study...

You are not correct in this thought.

I am not bragging here, rather thanking God for the opportunity I have been given to spend this much time in studying. Since 1998 I have studied and studied and studied. Since 2003 I study the better part of the 4 hours a day we spend in the Paltalk room. I don't hear a new concept without studying it out for myself, by myself. If what I hear does not match what I see in the word of God, I don't just say, ok... I don't see it but because you say it it must be true. I continue to study on it until I completely disprove what they are saying, or some other scripture comes that proves them right.

you came in like a march wind first post about this Moore guy...

There was one small comment in my first post about Brother Moore. It was there because he is where I first heard about the dispensation of the Grace of God, and rightly dividing the Word of Truth. Before that I knew very little about my salvation and what Christ's death on the Cross meant to my eternal life. There isn't anything wrong with giving credit where credit is due and if I had never heard Brother Moore's teaching, I would probably continued as lost as a person can be. There are several other teachers that I now listen to and study out what they say.

As far as posting the wesite link to Brother Moore's studies , I was asked for more information on Brother Moore and that link is where, by his permission, his studies gained access to the internet. I requested permission to post it, and waited to recieve permission before I did... I wouldn't have posted it otherwise.

Cindy? Are you truly being honest with yourself??

You have no idea how honest I am with myself. Honesty hurts I know because I live it. In this life I know what I am, and I know what I am not (as that is pointed out much more often). Over and above all that I am in the flesh, I know who I am in Chirst and that supersedes anything I am or am not in this life.

I had to be honest to myself and realize that I thought no other doctrine could be true!!

I was raised Catholic, was excumnicated, attended a Pentacostal Assembly next, then a Baptist assembly after that. From there I attended a non denominational assembly and then a baptist assembly again. I was exposed to many doctrines. I examined them all. As a teenager I drove the Catholic priest to such distraction with my questions he actually called my parents in for a conference. He told them I was a middle of the road person... I could see both sides, yet he cautioned them that my questions would lead me away from the Catholic church... what insite he had, though I didn't leave, at the age of seventeen, I was thrown out. That middle of the road way of thinking, the ability to see both sides of a topic, problem, or bible belief, is what has led me to where I am now.

I agree, we must try to keep the unity of the Spirit in peace.

Ephesians 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

I actually have a box of salt with this verse taped to it on top of my computer desk.

Colossians 4:6 Let your speech be alway with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

Neither of these verses are easy because when you start to show someone Scriptures that don't support what they believe they often get angry. I am not saying that is what is happening here, only that I experience that over and over. People tend to get comfortable in what they believe and don't want that comfort shaken up. I want to be shaken up. I don't want to just accept what I hear without studying it out. If I am wrong (and being human that is a absoulte possibility) I admit it. Studying either reinforces what you already see in the Word of God, or brings new evidence that you are wrong... either way there is growth.

I have been banned from one other group... twice actually from the same group... and that because I asked for Scriptural proof for something someone said. I was invited back into the group and was banned again for the same thing. I am really quite surprised that I have not been banned from this one already, and for the same thing.

I am outspoken. I said from the beginning I was jumping in with both feet. How is anyone going to know what is in my mind unless I let it out. As far as converting anyone, I maintain that isn't my job... my job is to get the Word of God out there for people to hear to galvinate them into studying for themselves, checking out everything they hear. Yes, I consider myself to be as the bereans were. I do add some commentary, as necessary, to explain what I see. If you go back over my posts and take out all the Scripture verses you will see that in most posts, I actually say very little as compared to the verses.

I hope that gives you some insite to who I am.

Besides all that I am a wife, my husband and I have been married 26 years. I am the mother of one son, from a previous marriage, which, by the way, is what got me thrown out of the Catholic Church. My husband and I are the parents of two daughters and he raised my son as his own. I am a grandmother of one grandson, age three, and one granddaughter 4 months, with another granddaughter due in just a a week or so. My children are my one true accomplishment, the one thing of true value in my life. They come here for Sunday dinner, every Sunday that they can make it. I have turned out to be sort of a decent cook after many years, at least that is what I am told. I raise chickens for our own eggs, and I garden with a fever. I just planted over 400 tomato and pepper seeds for my own transplants, of which I will plant about half all over the yard, where ever I can find a place for them, and give the rest away. I sew and I like to create things from many different materials. I can come up with more things to do that I have time to do. I have a lap dog named Quincy, a cat, named Murphy, that likes my keyboard a little to much and a pure white rabbit, named Blackie, that lives in a big cage in my livingroom that is way to fat, (yes, in the livingroom). That is about all there is worth knowing about the eartly me. This computer and it's online focus to Bible Study, plus my kids, my pets, my housework and my garden are the main part of my day and my life.

I know this is a very long post, and I will try to keep them shorter in the future, if I am still here.

In Christ

Cindy


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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 1/27/2008 11:34 PM
I know this is a very long post, and I will try to keep them shorter in the future, if I am still here.  [Cindy]
 
 
Cindy, I am happy for you to be able to speak your mind freely.

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From: MSN NicknamewedgewoodthymeSent: 1/28/2008 2:19 PM
Thank you, and you are welcome.
 
I will try to be more considerate in the future, notice I said "try"... tact and keeping my words seasoned are not my strongest traits, but I am working on them. .
 
In Christ,
Cindy

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