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From: Dandelion  (Original Message)Sent: 3/8/2008 5:34 AM
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 I home school my children. I may not live in Cal. but I am sure because of this the same rules might happen in my state. I am in shock and now mad!!! How dare they say I cannot home-school my children without  credentials?!!
Dandelion
 
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Home-schooling illegal in California?
State tells parents they can't teach their own kids without credentials.
By Art Moore
, WorldNetDaily.com, August 19, 2002

The State of California is warning parents that they cannot educate their children at home without acquiring a professional teaching credential.

Home-schooling illegal in the Golden State?

Activists say that if your information comes only from the state's Department of Education, that is the obvious conclusion.

But legal defenders of home-based education argue that "home-schooling" is not even mentioned in California law and is legal under a statute that allows any parent to operate a "private school," even if the student body amounts to one. California is one of 12 states where home-schooling is accomplished under a private school exemption.

Nevertheless, on July 16, the California education department issued a memo that stated:

 

"In California, home-schooling �?a situation where non-credentialed parents teach their own children, exclusively, at home whether using correspondence courses or other types of courses �?is not an authorized exemption from mandatory public school attendance."

This is pure deception, contends home-school legal advocate Roy Hanson, director of the Lincoln, Calif.-based Private and Home Educators of California.

"One of the things the school district obviously is trying to do is use this to frighten people into joining the public school program," he said.

The memo, printed on the stationery of state Superintendent of Public Instruction Delaine Eastin, informed local educators of a new procedure that private schools must use to excuse their students from public school attendance. Private schools are required to file an affidavit for that purpose between Oct. 1 and Oct. 15 each year. The new method allows them to file via the Internet, directly with the state office.

The July 16 memo's reference to home-schooling continues:

"Furthermore, a parent's filing of the affidavit required of a private school does not transform that parent into a private school. Therefore, those parents who home-school their children are operating outside the law, and there is no reason for them to file an affidavit."

Michael Smith, president of the Home School Legal Defense Association in Virginia, is amazed by the state's position.

"It's really absurd when you think about it," he said, "because California, supposedly this forward state, would be the only state in the union that would require home-schoolers to be certified teachers."

The state's interpretation of the law has been communicated in various ways for about 10 years and is designed "to intimidate people not to home-school," said Karen Taylor, president of the California Homeschool Network

In spite of the July memo, according to Taylor, home-schooling families will continue this year as usual.

"They can say anything they want to, but the law has not changed," she said. "That is the important thing."

"Your child will be considered truant"

But the memo is being taken seriously by local education administrators.

The San Diego County Office of Education sent a letter Aug. 2 to "private school administrators" �?which includes home-schooling families �?informing them of "recent and urgent information" regarding the filing of private school affidavits. The fourth paragraph directs their attention to the July 16 memo's warning about home-school instruction.

The San Diego County letter concludes that, "As a result, non-credentialed parents who have home-schooled their children in the past can no longer file affidavits."

Without an affidavit, the letter warns, "your child will be considered truant."

Enclosed with the letter was a list of area programs with "credentialed home-school teachers that can assist you with your home schooling efforts." These are home-school programs conducted with oversight from the local public school district, said Smith, including charter schools and independent study cooperatives.

The San Diego letter concludes with, "Our sincere apology and regrets regarding this matter. Unfortunately this situation is not in our control."

Hanson said, however, that on Thursday he and other home-school defenders received assurances from a new attorney with the Department of Education, Roger Wolfertz, that the state must accept an affidavit from any parent who desires to teach at home. Wolfertz made that clarification at a meeting of the California State School Attendance Review Board, an advisory body to the superintendent of public instruction.

Will home-schooling families in California be informed that despite the July 16 memo and other communiqués, they can file their affidavits as usual and continue homeschooling?

"We don't expect that," said Jim Davis, legislative liaison for Hanson's group.

Have California parents been deliberately misinformed by the state regarding the legality of home-schooling?

"I would go so far as to say this, they probably have been deceived in the past, and they're being even more deceived now," said Hanson.

The California Homeschool Network's Taylor agrees that the state has been putting out false information "to intimidate people not to home-school." She speculates that the motivation is money.

"That's all I can think of," she said. "Home-school children are doing well �?there doesn't seem to be any argument academically or socially. When our children are not in the school system the districts lose funding."

Hanson explained that funds are allotted according to how many students are enrolled. Each school-age child that does not enroll in the local public school represents lost potential income of $4,000 to $6,000.

The state's increasing pressure on home-schooling families comes at a time when family advocates such as James Dobson are saying "it's time to get our kids out" of California's public school system.

In a speech at the National Religious Broadcasters convention in February, he noted that the California legislature has mandated the teaching of "homosexual propaganda" in the state's public schools.

California home-school legal defender Gary Kreep, president of the U.S. Justice Foundation in Escondido, near San Diego, agrees that funding is a motivation for rejecting home-schooling, but also believes that some officials don't like home-schoolers because they are independent thinkers.

"If you're not in public school you can't be indoctrinated to think that homosexuality is fine," he said. "You can't be indoctrinated with the teacher's union or the educrats who want the children to think (a certain way)."

On its website, the Homeschool Association of California conjectures that the state's "motives range from the greedy to the noble," but believes it should be given the benefit of the doubt: "It is possible that well-meaning employees of the state have looked at the question and concluded that state law does not permit families to do this."

Vigorous opposition

Home-school watchers in California say recently retired Department of Education attorney Carolyn Pirillo, deputy counsel to the superintendent, was the primary influence behind the state's insistence that home-schooling by parents without a teaching certificate is illegal.

Hanson said opposition to home-schooling at the Department of Education has become more vigorous in the last year, a development that has corresponded with a major change in the staff that handles private school affidavits. Home-schoolers who call the department often are harassed, he said.

The Homeschool Association of California says it has been informed that officials in some counties and at the Department of Education are denying parents access to the private school affidavits, advising them that the private school option is not legal for home-schoolers.

Department of Education communications coordinator Nicole Winger told WorldNetDaily she was not prepared to comment on the state's position on home-schooling but believes the July 16 memo stating that it is not legal without certified teachers "speaks for itself."

The education department was unable to respond late last week to WND's repeated attempts to reach personnel who can comment on home-schooling, Winger said. She explained that because the department's legal section is in the process of moving its offices, attorneys were not available Thursday and Friday. Also, Teresa Cantrell, program analyst for the department and the contact person regarding private school affidavits, did not return phone calls.

In a May 10 letter citing provisions of the federal No Child Left Behind Act of 2001, Superintendent Eastin cited two California court cases to back her argument that a parent must be certified in the grade level he or she wishes to teach.

In the 1953 case of People vs. Turner, the Los Angeles Superior Court Appellate Department concluded, using the "reasonableness" test, that it was not reasonable for the state to be required to supervise the many small private schools across California.

The Home School Legal Defense Association's Smith insists that there are three problems with this decision. He says, first of all, the court was wrong in making the assumption that the state actually supervises private schools. The state has no such authority, Smith contends. Second, the current private school affidavit requirement was not in existence in 1953. Third, he cites the 1963 U.S. Supreme Court case, Sherbert v. Verner, "which established that whenever there is a violation of an individual's fundamental right (such as parents' right to educate their children, or the right to free exercise of religion), the compelling state interest-least restrictive balancing test must be applied, rather than the reasonable relationship test."

Eastin also cited the 1961 case of re Shinn, in which a California court determined that the Shinn family's claim to have established a private school in their home did not comply with the state's private school law.

Smith argues that the court determined the family was not in compliance because the Shinns were not teaching their children the required subjects. The court assumed the legality of private home-schooling, Smith contends, then sought to determine whether the Shinn family met private school requirements.

Legal action?

The U.S. Justice Foundation's Kreep said his group and others, including the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, are discussing what to do about California's threat to home-schooling.

Kreep said he is concerned that the state will crack down on home-schoolers en masse unless pre-emptive action is taken.

"If we wait for an attack where they are going after homeschoolers in 15 or 16 different counties at the same time, there are not going to be enough resources to fight that," he said.

Kreep noted that he has been involved in the legal defense of some home-schooling families against school districts. But so far, according to Smith, California generally has not enforced its stated position on home-schooling.

The Homeschool Association of California said it hears of a handful of truancy cases related to home-schooling each year.

"Most school districts don’t have the time or stomach to do it," Smith said. "They kind of figure well, if these kids are being educated we've got bigger fish to fry. And district attorneys, city attorneys don't see this as a high priority."

But Smith emphasized, "It's not because the state hasn't tried. They have, they've tried to get impetus in prosecutions. They just haven't gotten it."

The Homeschool Association of California �?which calls the state's interpretation of the education law "fatally flawed" �?is convinced that any court hearing a case against a home-schooling family would have to rule in the family's favor.

But the association advises home-schooling families and their friends to not wage a campaign of phoning, letter-writing and e-mailing, believing "these actions can have a very serious negative effect."

"In all likelihood," the group's statement said, "these officials sincerely believe they are correct ... . We think it unlikely that they will revisit their interpretation of the law because hundreds of citizens who aren't lawyers tell them they’re bad and wrong. To the contrary, it will only make them mad. We have seen several instances where this public pressure has, in fact, made things turn out worse for the families involved."

Taylor said her California Homeschool Network has no plans at the moment to challenge the state.

"I think it might be premature to have legal action now," she said. "Those of us in California plan on continuing to home-school, so we will be filing as we always have. We will not back down."

 

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From: MSN NicknamewedgewoodthymeSent: 3/9/2008 5:20 PM
I think any parent should be allowed to homeschool their children if they are able too, though some are not.  As long as all the standard tests for all the critera are being passed on a level capable of the child attending college one day, or being educated to make a living for themselves and maybe a family, I don't think the government should ban it.  After all, we teach them from the time they are born until, if they do, they enter public or private schools.   Further I think parents  that find themselves lacking in one particular subject should be allowed to join together with other parents that know the subject and share the teaching.
 
When my children were young, it never occured to me to homeschool them.  The idea just never crossed my mind.  I attended 13 years of public school and I got a good education.  I really don't think I could have done a better job than the teachers that were trained to teach my children.  My children were exposed to a lot of things, some good, some bad, that they might not have experienced otherwise.  BUT, So very many, things have changed since then.  If I were a young mother, now, with school aged children I think I would seriously consider homeschooling.    I respect and admire any parent that takes on the responsibility of teaching their own Children. 
 
I also respect those that send their children to public school,  if they know they are not up to teaching them themselves, or to private school if they can afford it.  Even with a child in a public or private school, the parents can still take an active role in what their child is learning, and continue that training at home based on what the parents ideals are about any subject.
 
Maybe the government should spend more time considering what is, and what is not, being taught in public school.
 
Sadly there are to many parents that just don't care, because they are busy satisfying themselves.  So many parents both have to work now, just to keep the wolf away from the door.  Either way what the child is learning sometimes gets totally neglected.   There are way to many kids that are one day going to be running the nation that don't know much and don't care much about anything, including themselves.
 
In Christ
Cindy

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 3/9/2008 9:14 PM
God commands parents to educate their children.
 
The first thing the state needs to understand is God gives children to parents, not to the state.  The state does not own them.
 
The state has no business interfering unless parents abuse their children.  If my child is homeschooled and can pass the state's reasonable tests in subjects such as math, English, and history, then they have no business saying one word about my homeschooling that child.

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 3/9/2008 9:55 PM
Appellate court says a credential is needed to teach children
By Maureen Magee
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER

March 7, 2008


K.C. ALFRED / Union-Tribune
Kathy Adams Morgan helped her daughter Jenny, 13, with school work yesterday at their Point Loma home. About 4,000 students are home-schooled in the county.
Overview

Background: Estimates on the number of home-schooled children in California range from 100,000 to 200,000. Parents can teach their children at home by filing a private school affidavit, hiring a credentialed tutor or enrolling them in an independent study program run by an established school.

What's changing: A state appellate court ruled that it is illegal for parents to teach their children without a teaching credential.

The future: There are no plans to enforce the ruling. An appeal is in the works.
After treating patients for 15 years, Kathy Adams Morgan hung up her stethoscope to educate her daughter full time at their Point Loma home.

Eight years later, Morgan has no regrets. It's easy to see why.

At 13, Jenny scores high on standardized tests and balances academics with organized sports, Girl Scouts, dance �?and the ever-important teenage social life.

But according to a recent state appellate court ruling, it is illegal for Morgan �?and the thousands of California parents who home-school their children �?to teach without credentials.

“Parents do not have a constitutional right to home school their children,�?wrote Justice H. Walter Croskey in a Feb. 28 opinion signed by the two other members of the 2nd District Court of Appeal.

The ruling has rattled home-school families in San Diego County and throughout California. It is the subject of much speculation on the blogs, Web sites and networks that link thousands of home-schoolers statewide.

However, many parents, educators and even lawyers are unsure exactly what the decision means. No one predicts an imminent change for home-schoolers.

“We all take our liberties for granted,�?Morgan said. “I couldn't imagine not being able to have the option of home schooling.�?BR>
It's unclear how many children are home-schooled in California, but estimates range from 100,000 to 200,000. In San Diego County, educators and home-school networks surmise that as many as 4,000 students get their educations at home.

Many of them are enrolled in independent study programs through school districts, charter schools or private schools. For instance, Jenny Morgan takes some classes, including high school French, and exams at Mt. Everest Academy, a public school that supports home-schoolers in San Diego.

Other students are taught at home under the direction of a parent.

Home schooling in California has been permitted if parents exempt their child from from public school by filing a private school affidavit, which essentially establishes their home as a school; hires a credentialed tutor; or enrolls their child in an independent study program run by an established school while teaching at home.

Many parents like the flexibility of home schooling and fear that strict laws may come from the ruling.

“The law is vague, but that's to our benefit. I would hate to see that change,�?said Mary Beth Ring of National City, who home-schools her fifth-grade daughter and 12th-grade son. Her three older children were also home-schooled.

“You've got people who are going to do this no matter what,�?Ring said. “If it becomes illegal, then it's just going to become underground.�?BR>
The ruling came as a surprise to the home-schooling community because it was not part of an organized campaign targeting this nontraditional style of education. In fact, home schooling was the accidental target in a Los Angeles County social-service investigation.

After following up on a child's claim that his father was abusive, social workers discovered that eight siblings were being home-schooled by their mother through the Sunland Christian School. An attorney representing the two youngest children asked a judge to order them to attend a traditional school, saying the home education was deficient.

The judge agreed the education was “lousy,�?“meager�?and “bad,�?but he denied the request. He said families had a constitutional right to home-school their children.

The county appealed and the 2nd District court, based in Los Angeles, ordered the children to attend a school.

However, there do not appear to be plans for widespread enforcement or disruption to home-schoolers statewide.

Legal experts say the ruling is a long time coming, given that home schooling is virtually unregulated in California.

“What the court did say is that parents no longer have the right to home-school your kid any way you want, that it's legal for the state to regulate how you home-school your kid,�?said Shaun Martin, a law professor at the University of San Diego who has been following the case.

Martin said school districts and social workers have been reluctant to scrutinize suspect home schools for fear of lawsuits. The ruling, he expects, will make it easier for them to monitor parents who have neglected or under-educated children through home schooling.

A spokeswoman for the California Department of Education said staff lawyers are reviewing the case. Home-school advocates are rallying to protect their rights, and an appeal is already in the works.

“There are going to be a lot of parents forced to make some very difficult decisions if an appeal is not successful,�?said Brad Dacus, president of the Pacific Justice Institute, a conservative legal organization preparing to fight the ruling on behalf of Sunland Christian School.

Dacus said he will appeal to the state Supreme Court.

Once considered a practice of the ultra religious or nonconformists, home schooling has gained wider support in recent years. Along with charter schools and private schools, home schooling has become one of the standard alternatives to a traditional public education.

Many families keep their children at home to give them a custom-made education that is in sync with their morals or religious beliefs. Others do it in response to school violence. Some enroll their children in independent-study programs to accommodate intensive athletic training, acting or music careers.

“We don't home-school to hide away from the world; we do it because it is best for our kids,�?said Ring of National City. “It's hard work and it's not for everybody. But it works for a lot of us.�?

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From: MSN NicknameLucretia509Sent: 3/9/2008 10:14 PM
I understand that parents want a right to educate their children at home.  Not every parent is actually qualified to do that.  I have seen cases where the child came back into the school system and the child was severely lacking in basic skills...and this was a high schooler.  The high school tried working with the parents and putting the child in remedial classes but the parent argued that their child was just brilliant...yet, the child could barely add or string a sentence together.
 
Then there are some parents who know what they are doing and can actually help the student in question succeed. 
 
I had a neighbor because of a medical condition they couldn't go to school.  My school actually set it up with actual teachers from the school to run by their house on certain days to go over material to help the student succeed.  Why because the school understood that the parents did not want to actually homeschool their child (my school system was excellent and individual professors actually knew the name of my high school).
 
I've come in contact with people my own age that have been home schooled and I can't talk with them because they have zero social skills...  One way to look at schools is a way of behaving/interacting with your peers and learning those social skills.  Another is that the child actually receives an education at the same time.
 
I'm actually certified in Mass to teach History 5-12 and Middle School Math... btw those teacher exams are ridiculously tough...  But on the upside, pretty much 48 out of the 50 accept the Mass exams because they are extremely tough to pass.  So, if nothing else, I have that going for me! YAY!  pray I get a job for next year...at a decent school (not one where I would have to worry about being shot for teaching).

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From: MSN Nickname_MrWonder_Sent: 3/10/2008 12:49 PM
I guess we all have our stories.  Mine is that I know a woman
very well at my church who has homeschooled all five of her
children and they do excellently in school subjects and
socially.  They get their social outlet through neighborhood
friends and through church.
 
I agree some people should seek help.  Well actually, she
 does seek help herself.  She meets together with other
homeschooling parents on a regular basis and they work
together.  Maybe that's the answer.  Don't try to do it solo.

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