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From: MSN NicknameWonderful---Julia1  (Original Message)Sent: 9/4/2007 5:55 AM
Hello to everyone
thankyou for letting us be a part of this wonderful group.i have been looking and reading about pkd for a couple of years now on the net. My wife has pkd and has around 60 percent function in her kidneys.she is turning 40 soon.we have two girls 10 and 8 they have not been checked for the gene as yet.My wifes sister also has pkd but basically does not suffer the same symptoms as my wife does, except for migranes which occur on a daily basis.I would greatly appreciate any feedback regarding the procedures of removing or decreasing cysts as my wife has been expereincing quite a lot of uncomfortable pain in the last 6 mths due to the cysts hitting against her ribcage.Our specialist here in Australia seems to think this is not an issue and recommends breathing exercises.This sounds like a poor answer to very important question.Any suuggestions would be appreciated as i will be seeing another specialist in the next few weeks.
 
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Mark


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From: MSN NicknamepkdLinSent: 9/4/2007 6:52 PM
Welcome to you and your wife! Your daughters don't really need to be tested because they are too young, and too because it's costly. No good comes of knowing anyway because we don't yet have a cure. Normally one would do everything to assure their children remain healthy and that is all you and your wife need to do now, even in spite of a history of pkd in the family. Be extra carefull about health in particular blood pressure. Report any suspicious signs along with the fact that pkd runs in family to thier doctor.
We have many members here who have pain and I know they will jump in and guide you in that. Many doctors are of the opinion that people with pkd don't have any pain, and I'm really going out on a limb here in saying that they are ALL wrong. Most people don't just imagine they are in pain, it's real. There are therapies and txs.. available, and medication too. Again, members who have pain from pkd cysts will be more than nelpfull in this area.
I hope you make good use of the site and the friendships that you will make. Read the links in the left hand column for lots of pertinent information. Lin,

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From: barbSent: 9/5/2007 6:17 AM
In a message dated 9/4/2007 1:43:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
a lot of uncomfortable pain in the last 6 mths due to the cysts hitting against her ribcage.Our specialist here in Australia seems to think this is not an issue and recommends breathing exercises.This sounds like a poor answer to very important question
Here's my suggestion: get a new doctor for your wife! This fellow seems quite ignorant and not p-to-date with his knowledge of PKD.
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From: barbSent: 9/5/2007 6:22 AM
In a message dated 9/4/2007 1:43:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
My wifes sister also has pkd but basically does not suffer the same symptoms as my wife does, except for migranes which occur on a daily basis.
People get migraines. People are born with PKD. Sometimes people have both. I know of no scientific study that connects migraines with PKD. The tendency to get migraines can run in families, just as with any other condition.
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From: BridgetSent: 9/5/2007 6:26 AM
Mark, welcome to you and your wife.I am relieved to hear that you are going to another Nephrologist for a second opinion!
Breathing exercises..............that dr. has NO clue about PKD then, I my opinion.
Visit the PKD Foundation web site @ www.pkdcure.org and you will find a great deal of information you can print out and take along with you to your dr. appts.
Make a list of questions for the Nephrologist also. And make sure he/she understands your looking for answers and won't settle for anything less. I know how your wife is feeling. My kidneys are very large and it feels as though I am laying on a bag of marbles when I lay down to go to sleep at night. We have many members from Australia hopefully they will reply to your post.
Please stay in touch and let us know what happens at your next appt.
 
Hugs, Bridget*

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From: MSN NicknameihavepkdSent: 9/6/2007 12:41 PM
Mark,
I love your user name! 
 
I have PKD and I have migraines. I got PKD from my father.  This migraines run on my mom's side of the family.  I'm not keen on either, but fortuantely have a marvelous doctor (he's a nephrologist) who has taken on the challenge of being my primary care doctor and also works with a neurologist to ensure my migraines are treated.  I have about 35-40% kidney function, so I ensure any and all medications recommended by other doctors gets the approval of my nephrologist before using them.
 
I wrote a long novel in response to your posting on the general message board about the kidneys, but since you also ask about migraines, here are some suggestions that have worked for me:
 
First, are they truly migraines or a different type of headache?  Migraines are typically one-sided and pretty intense pain and may be accompanied by senstivity to light and sound and nausea.  Some people get see an aura (can be flashing lights, sparkles, halos around lights) or prodrome (strange feelings of energy or impending doom) before the migraine hits.  The pain can last for hours to day each time.
 
Daily headaches may well be migraines, but they may be something else.  I used to have a daily headache as well as get frequent migraines (my migraines lasted days, which is unusual).  Fortunately with treatment my daily headaches are gone and my migraines are also under some semblance of control.  No one could figure out what caused the daily headache, but it wasn't a migraine; they pain was different but still very painful and distracting.
 
I highly recommend your wife keep a headache diary, noting the time and location of the pain, the intensity, the weather, how much she slept that night, what foods she ate (in the full 24 hours before the headache hit) as well as what she took or did to make the headache go away.  Bring this with you to the doctor's appointment and it will make a world of difference in enabling the doctor, ideally a neurologist, to work with you and develop an effective treatment nd prevention plan.
 
Ice generally works well for the migraines, at both the site of the pain and the back of neck.  You may be able to find an icepack that will wrap around Julia's head; they're wonderful!  I'll find the webiste for the one I bought and post it; hopefully they ship worldwide! 
 
Use only acetominophen based products, no non-steroidal anti-inflammatories such as ibuprofen or naproxen sodium.  Starting with basic acetominophen, there are many products that will help the headaches.  The challenge is finding the one that works best for the pain.
 
Rebound headaches may also be the cause of the daily migraines.  If you take too much pain medication (e.g., more than 2-3 times per week), the body can become accustomed to that dosing and you may develop headaches when you don't get the medication.  It's a viscious cycle and difficult to break.
 
Prescription medications may be needed for migraines.  I've tried a number of them, including the triptans, a class of medication specifically designed to break the migraine if taken immediately upon onset.  I know people who swear by them; unfornately they don't work for me.  I've found Fioricet, a combination of acetominophen, caffeine and butalbital (a mild barbituate) is the only thing that will keep the pain under some semblance of control when a migraine hits.
 
Knowing what triggers the migraine is a key factor in treatment and prevention.  My primary trigger is changes in weather; my head lets me know when the barometric pressure is dropping.  But I'm also affected when the low front passes and the weather clears up again.  I'm also senstive to lack of sleep; too little sleep, especially over the course of a few days, will trigger a migraine.
 
For prevention, there are medications that can be taken continously to help reduce the frequency and intensity of the pain.  What works best of me is actually Botox injections (I got them as part of a clinical trial and it's now a standard part of my neurology clinic's treatment for migraine prevention).  It works wonders and the pattern they're given in doesn't give you the frozen expression of celebrities you see on the television!  These injections, done every 90 days, have dramatically decreased both the frequency and intensity of my migraines as well as made the daily headache go away entirely!
 
I also have tried a number of preventive medications and the one that seems to work best is pregablin (Lyrica is the US brand name).  But there are many others that may also be effective, including some blood pressure medicines.  Working with a neurologist and keeping the kidneys in mind when prescribing any medication is key!
 
On a separate note, I'm glad to hear you and your wife will be seeing a new specialist in a few weeks.  It does sound like the one you have now isn't up to speed on PKD and all of the complications and pain that can accompany it. 
 
Where do you live in Austrailia?  We have a number of members from down under, so you may well live near one of them!  Do let us know!
 
And best wishes to you and Julia!
Ruth
from just outside Washington DC, USA (northern Virginia, actually)

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