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| | From:  Thai-BlazeII (Original Message) | Sent: 5/17/2008 9:09 PM |
Hello,
one of my pups got very stressed when he eats side by side with the other dogs, and the stress remain for about 10 after the bowl is empty.
He eats very fast, then he tries to snap the other dog.
(or tries to steal her food). So they started to separate them while eating.
He is soon 5 months old, and lives with an 14 months old Pinscher bitch and an young nice couple (inhwa /new boardmember - welcome!).
He used to eat with my dogs, together with 2 or 3 more dogs fed in groups side by side.
I just wonder if you feed your dogs separate or not. Or if you have any advice to lower the food-stress or tips for making them eat slower.
Is it just too keep on training them to eat together, or is it better to give them food separated?
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.......the stress remain for about 10 MINUTES after the bowl is empty...... |
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Okay, Tina.
Remember your having to read the posts on "packs"?
Just because a pup eats with famiy members does not mean it will do it peacefully with other dogs. There definitely is dominance involved. Size is big factor.
I will not post again as I don't understand why everyone puts so much emphasis on feeding "together". According to Ann, Cesar will solve it. Be a Pack leader! Me, I enjoyed eating by myself while reading a newspaper, before my 16 month apart children awoke. I think my dogs always enjoyed dining alone also. The battle for Momma's teat was enough.
Jo-Ann
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There you have it Tina, If you like eating alone your dogs can too. If you like eating with others, your dogs will also. |
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Ok, guys, thanks!
The little pup is named Darwin since he moved, it says alot about his personality!
(kidding ;-)) |
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| | | From: inhwa | Sent: 5/18/2008 9:05 AM |
This is my forst post to the board so I may do something wrong =) I´m Inhwa, the owner of the pup that Tina talks about. The problem is not so much whether they should eat together or not, the problem is what should I do about his snapping and growling at the bitch after foodtime. As Tina said, the foodstress stays a while after the bowls are removed... Anyone that has some tips to a first time Thai owner? |
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Welcome Inhwa. I have some questions...
Does he only do this when eating in the same room as other dog? If he eats away from, or at a different time from the other dog does he behave this way? Is he snappy with you after he eats?
I have fed 4 dogs together in my kitchen without problems. One of the dogs is food protective (my TRD Sadie). However, from the moment she came into the house as the "new girl on the block" she has had to conform to the house rules.
Rule #1: I am boss.
Rule #2: The new dog has no status.
Rule #3: I enforce Rule #1 and #2.
Once the rules are taken care of I try to be aware and intercept bad behavior before it gets started. So for a VERY long time I would stand in the kitchen while they ate. Toolie would push his bowl by Sadie. This would set Sadie off into growling and snapping because he was too close. So I would move his bowl away before it got to her growling point. I also have worked with Sadie on food protection...she will still tense and emit a small growl when touched while eating, but she'll keep eating...progress not perfection.
As for slowing dogs down while eating...I have started using bowls with tall ridges in them. It forces the dogs to eat more slowly. Since I went to these bowls there has been less post meal vomiting. This style shows three posts in the middle of the bowl... http://lifehacker.com/software/stuff-we-like/brake-fast-dog-food-bowl-175927.php
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| | | From: inhwa | Sent: 5/18/2008 6:32 PM |
Hi! No, he does the same thing even if they´re not in the same room or if he´s fed at another time. He doesn´s snap or growl at me or my boyfriend, it´s "only" at my other dog. I can take his food away, and pet him while he eats, even though I try not to do it so much, because I think that may increase his stress. I´m always in the same room as they while they eat, and I keep a close eye on them until he reaches the point where he´s calm. I don´t think that he would actually hurt her, it´s just that he puts her spirit down, and I don´t like that. They get along perfectly well otherwise, it´s just when it comes to the food. I really liked that bowl, and I think that might help to reduce his stress. Hopefully I can get one here in Sweden =) |
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| I use some forks or spoons on top of the food to make them slow down. |
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I have some big smooth stones nothing they
could chew on or swallow and I put that in their bowls. Sometimes I throw the
food in the grass and make them find it and work to find each piece. They think
they are hunting
Terri
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I use some forks or spoons on top of
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| | | From: inhwa | Sent: 5/20/2008 1:53 PM |
The last two days the feeding has not been a problem. We discovered that his stresslevel had to do with him seeing us preparing the food. So now they´re outside while we prepare it, then they both come in and sit and wait for their food. The bitch gets permission to eat first, and Darwin gets his permission just a fex seconds after. When they both have finished eating we remove the bowls. This has worked very well, and I hope that this is a part of the solution. Of course we keep an eye on them, and make sure that nothing happens. |
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Good idea to throw the food in the grass to make them hunt for it. Thanks!! |
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