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Hi, sorry that I didn´t take part at the discussions a lot at the last time. I promisst that I will be more active in the future. I would like to ask you, if please judge my 10 month old female. She´s a daughter of my Filou. Thanks a lot Nadine |
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Some more pics....head and front |
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Hi Nadine. A young bitch is always a litle hard to judge especially a black. it is difficult to see her clearly due to her deep color which is excellent. Her topline appears average overall and is slightly roached. Her croup appears a little too steep in its slope. Her shoulder is very good and prominent. it appears strong, but I would hope in future to see it blend into neckline better. She carrie sher tial nicely, but I would prefer more erect. It is of good lenght. Her front is nice and strait and has nice angles to her shoulder. In her future development I would like to see more chest size. Her rear is average anlgulation and my first impression form picture is she may be slightly high in the rear in her natural stance. Her torso is slightly long, but is in poroprtion to her overall frame. Her head and muzzle are of proper proportion and she has a good stop.Ears arer set high which is nice but seem slightly larger in appearance. A little soft currenlty. Overall she is a good dog and wish you the best with her and I hope to see her future developments. She is still young and growing. james |
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Dear James, How did you learn what a TRD should look like? Is there a chart or at least a picture that shows the name of dog anatomy and shoulds what a TRD that conforms to standard would look like? I feel a real lack of info here. My best, Rose  |
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Hi Rose, we have a dog anatomy page in the index on the left of the screen. it will help you identify body parts. The TRD appearcne is judged form the standard, getting a visiual of what the standard is saying, coupled by preference of the standard and interpretation of course. It is years of stuying, talking about ,looking at fots and seeing the TRD if where I make my own opinions and judgements form. Everyones will be a little different. I dont think most of us agree on the same traits and faults, as well as overall appearance of the breed. The dog is general will be juded of cofromation and oevrall balance of any dog. I think your eye overtime will tell you what is good, right and what you prefer.It takes time and is a constant learning process. What I like, and prefer will not exactly match to anothers preference. Take sometime to reveiw the libraires to the left, there is some good info there, and will help you to understand and see the TRD as what it is and should be. I belive there are some drawings as well. James |
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Dear James, Thank you - I took a look at the stuff on the left and I am going to spend some time reading it over. I guess I thought the goal was to breed as close to the standard as possible, with no thought to preference. I guess I'm being to "black and white" again! Anyway, thanks for the great info - you are always a GREAT HELP! My best, Rose |
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Hi James, thanks for the judging. I hope she won´t grow more. She has now 56 cm and this is really big enough, please no more cm  And she stays free. I was alone with her in the field and she saw someone of the other end of the field. Normally I´m to slowly to catch such moments. I compare that her chest could be a little deeper. For myself I prefer this little longer group where the tail set is a little lower. But this is my own preference.  We´ll see what the judges will say in the future. And as you said every judge has his own preferences and his own interpretation of the standard. I think one plus point is her movement (if she don´t jumps beside me and want to carry the leash on her own) and her friendly and no frighten charakter. But the most important for me is: She´s a really good working dog :) Please more judging, thanks. BYe NAdine |
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Hi Rose, the goal is to breed to the standard, but I think it is impossible to anyone to be fully objective to it. Preference will always come into play to some degree. Some like more slender and houndinsh in appearnce, some more substance, some bigger head, some more primitive style. This is what creates variety.Right or worng, it is the facts.James |
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Hi Nadine, you are welcome. Its great she is a good working dog for you as looks can not make the animal alone. It needs to be a full package. james |
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Hi Nadine, Thank you for the opportunity to Judge Pebbles. My first overall impression is that Pebbles is a very nice bitch. Her appearance is typy for a TRD and nothing is overstated or gross. I had to look long and hard at Pebbles to give her a good critque. I have noticed many TRD share Pebbles High Shoulder Blade placement, which causes the neck to be held too high with too abrupt a transitition from the topline to the neck. You see evidence of this from the wrinkling of the skin at the withers. Her front and rear angles are appropriate modest and in balance with each other. She has lovely neck length, keeping her head well above the topline I like her topline and croup, along with her tailset. The front view shows a good forechest with nice straight front legs and pasterns. Her head is very good, with a slight but definate stop, tight lips and great ear placement. Her expression is wonderful as well as her eye shape. If she is moving well from the side and coming and going, you've got a real nice total package. |
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I've been re-thinking a few things, and feel that in addition to high shoulder placement, I believe Pebbles front angulation is also wide. All these things contribute to her neck placement. You can also see the high shoulders have wider angles. Here is an illustration showing good shoulders and high shoulders from Pat Hastings Book, "Tricks of the Trade" Here is an illustration from the book "Dog Locomotion and Gait Analysis" by Curtis M. Brown. It shows three different but common front shoulder to upper arm angulations. I would say many TRD have 130 degree angulation, which is NOT moderate. Greater angles should be stroven for in my opinion, but I also believe the TRD is a moderately angled breed overall. |
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