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From: Missing Something  (Original Message)Sent: 3/6/2008 10:17 PM
Well, recently turned up in my hands..... need some accessories now
 
 
 
 


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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 3/7/2008 3:47 AM
Ah, memories of my youth -- the M20B1 3.5-inch rocket launcher (aka "Super Bazooka" -- from the days of the Korean and Vietnam Wars.
 
One of the things you will need is a 3.5-inch training rocket.  The standard M1 rifle sling was issued with the launcher to help carry it.  The launcher breaks down into two sections that clamp to each other for stowage and transport.
 
Range of the rocket was about 400 meters and it came in TP, HEAT, and WP Smoke.  In the movie about Audie Murphy's wartime experiences To Hell and Back, there's a great scene of an actual 3.5-inch launcher taking a shot at the "Italian farm house" that Murphy's platoon is assaulting.  This is the only time I can remember that a real rocket launcher has been filmed firing on the silver screen.
 
The M20-series launchers were much easier to load and fire than their predecessor 2.36-inch cousins, the M1-series, M9-series, and M18-series.  The M20B1 and M20A1B1 had the contactor latch group assembly on the back of the tube.  Flip the latch up, insert the round; flip the latch down and it makes electrical contact on the rocket fin ring and also retains the round in the tube for launch.  Sight the target, tracket, and squeeze the trigger.  The magneto in the grip generates and electrical current that goes through a wire to the contactor latch group, to the contact on the rocket, and fires the motor.  All very simple.  The M20 had an integral folding bipod and did not have a contactor latch group; instead the two pigtail rocket igniter motors were fished out of the back of the rocket and connected to a pair of contact studs located near the breech of the launcher.  This was the common feature of all the 2.36-inch launcher.
 
The M20-series was a direct out-growth of the WW2 German 88mm Panzerschreck rocket launcher.  The M20-series was a great improvement on it in the form of weight and portability.  Unlike the smaller 2.36-inch rocket, the 3.5-inch rockets could defeat the armor of the T34/85 tanks that were used against the Allies in the Korean War.  The 2.36-launchers were found to be woefully inadequate in their ability to kill this WW2 Russian-built medium tank, and the M20 was rushed to the Korean theatre.  Results were very impressive with a lot of North Korean T34/85's knocked out.

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From: Missing SomethingSent: 3/7/2008 4:13 AM
All I have to say to you MasterGunner is you had a long and wild youth
 
may it continue long into the future......

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 3/7/2008 12:56 PM
The best trade I ever heard of was done by one of our MST (SEAL/UDT support) detachments.  Their Gunner's Mate traded a Marine Corps Gunnery Sergeant an M6 bayonet and M8A1 scabbard for an M20-series rocket launcher and a pallet of ammo.  The Marines had phased-out the 3.5's for recoilless rifles and the M72-series LAW.  They'd also phased-out the M14 for the M16.  This old Gunny still carried the M14 and needed a bayonet and scabbard for his personal weapon.  The issue bayonet for the M16, the M7, would not fit the M14.
 
Our detachments were issued the M72 LAW -- a one-shot disposable 66mm HEAT round -- and the very first series launchers did not have a good reputations for reliability or safety.
 
I was rather jealous of our sister detachment's Gunner's Mate because I always wanted a 3.5 to deal with bunkers in our area.  The 3.5 would have made mincemeat out of them with either the HEAT or WP Smoke rounds.  (White Phosphorous is a particularly nasty chemical round.  The WP particles burn in contact with air until they are consumed.  The particles gives off dense clouds of white smoke as they burn and this smoke is toxic if inhaled in any great quantity.  The WP rounds would've been excellent for flushing out any bad guys that were in the bunkers -- or I could have just demolished the bunker with a HEAT round.)

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From: MSN Nicknamesarmack1Sent: 3/7/2008 1:15 PM
When I served the LAWs are what we were issued. I had my doubts about taking on a T-72 with it but I guess it was better than nothing. Since I was TOW section leader I kind of hoped the bad guys would be stopped at our max range and wouldnt get close enough to use the LAWS.

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 3/7/2008 4:37 PM
Remember the M551 Sheridan airborne recon vehicle with its 152mm gun/Shillelagh missiles?  When I was getting off active duty with the Navy in 1971, the USS FLAGSTAFF (PGH-1) had returned from a deployment in Vietnam and was to be fitted with a modified Sheridan turret (replacing the forward 40mm Bofors gun).  Two of our guys in the armory were selected to go to Ft. Knox for training on the operation of the Sheridan turret and gun/missile launcher.
 
 
 
Above:  Hydrofoil gunboat USS FLAGSTAFF (PGH-1) flying on her foils.  Flagstaff was an attempt to build a small, fast, lightweight gunboat.   Specifications: Displacement 67 tons.; Length 82' (overall); Beam 21' 6"; Draft 4' 4" (foils retracted), 18' (foils extended); Speed 45+ kts. (foil-borne), eight kts. (hull-borne); Complement 12; Armament one 40mm gun mount, four .50 cal. machine guns (twin mountings) and one 81mm mortar; Propulsion one Rolls Royce Tyne gas turbine with super cavitating propeller (foil-borne) and two General Motors diesel engines with two water jet pumps (hull-borne).  With her sister hydrofoil USS TUCUMCARI (PGH-2), FLAGSTAFF was deployed to Da Nang, Vietnam, for a six month trial in late 1969.  The photo shows her as she was during this deployment.
 
Below: FLAGSTAFF in 1971-1972 while undergoing trials with the 152mm gun/launcher of the M551 Sheridan armored airborne recon vehicle.  The Shillelagh missile system worked very well.  The gun system was something different.  First firing trials with the gun knocked the vessel off its hydofoils (it was flying at the time) and onto the water.  The concussion produced by the horrendous muzzle blast of the 152mm gun/launcher blew the clear plexiglass bubble off the top of the turret.  This was remedied by stronger attachment points and a redesigned turret roof.  The photo shows the turret after rebuild to strengthen the roof and add a cupola for the gunners.  Testing was done by Boat Support Unit ONE/Coastal River Squadron ONE, Coronado, CA after FLAGSTAFF's formal decommissioning.  She was used as a testbed for experimental systems for several years before transfer to the USCG.
 
   
 
 
 
Above:  A good closeup shot of FLAGSTAFF taken from the oiler USS PLATTE (AO-24) in February 1970.   Notice that both side and stern foils are extended while fueling.  The small size of the vessel is very apparent in this photo.  The twin .50 machine guns are under the gun covers in back of the bridge.  The 81mm motar is located ahead of the inverted U-shaped frame in back of the two figures standing below the gun cover of the nearest .50 gun tub.
 
Below:  After the Navy had finished with FLAGSTAFF, she was loaned to the U.S. Coast Guard for evaluation.  At the end of the USCG test and evaluation period, FLAGSTAFF was returned to the Navy and then returned to the USCG.  Laid down 1 June 1966 by the Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corporation, Stuart, FL 1 June 1966; Launched, 15 July 1966; Commissioned USS Flagstaff (PGH-1), 14 September 1968; Decommissioned, 1 September 1970; Loaned to the Coast Guard 8 November 1974 and commissioned USCGS Flagstaff (WPBH 1) at San Diego, CA; Returned to U.S. Navy 18 February 1975; Reacquired by the Coast Guard 29 September 1976; Placed in commissioned (Special), 2 March 1977; Placed in commission (Active) 17 July 1977; Decommissioned 30 September 1978 and returned to U.S. Navy; Scrapped in 1978. and scrapped in 1978.  The photo shows FLAGSTAFF as WPBH-1.
 
 

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 3/7/2008 6:09 PM
As I was scrolling past your photos, it occured to me that the launcher you have may have a missing sight.  The sight is located just above the pistol grip/trigger and is a folding optical unit.  As I recall, it is a non-magnifying sight.
 
I believe Numrich Gun Parts Company or Sarco, Inc. has 3.5-inch rocket launcher sights.  You might want to check with them if you need one.

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From: Missing SomethingSent: 3/7/2008 6:22 PM
MG... The sight is on there.. just folded down. I am missing the rubber eyepiece though....

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 3/8/2008 2:30 AM
Try Nurmrich or Sarco, they may have some that can replace the missing rubber eye piece.  They may also have 3.5-inch inert rockets.

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