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Lest We Forget : Winston Churchill and Islam
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From: MasterGunner  (Original Message)Sent: 3/23/2006 2:34 PM
One of my heroes when I was growing up was Sir Winston Spencer Churchill.  Time-Life books had a record of his war speeches that were done by Richard Burton.  I listened to them by the hour, fascinated by his observations and his command of the English language.  His words are classics that still have meaning today.
 
Another thing about Churchill was, unlike the majority of politicians, he'd put his life in harm's way and had almost been killed on several occasions.  In one case, he used is 7.63mm Mauser C96 pistol to dispatch some nasty natives that had the intent of rendering him seriously dead.  There are many people who need to consider what he had to say about Islam in the 19th century, because it is still valid in the 21st. 
 
Sadly, and to Europe's regret, his observations about the rise of Hitler and Nazi Germany were ignored in the 1930's.  His warnings came true on 1 September 1939, when Hitler invaded Poland and plunged the UK and France into what expanded to become World War 2.  Today, we see history being repeated by the Europeans.  They think they can ignore and appease the Islamofascists in their midst.  Churchill's observations about Islam in his day are still true now.
"How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!  Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.  Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity.  The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as a child, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.  <o:p></o:p>

Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities.  Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen: all know how to die.  But the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.  It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science - the science against which it had vainly struggled - the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Rome</st1:place></st1:City>."  <o:p></o:p>

Winston Churchill
The River War (1899)



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From: MSN NicknamePupalLemmingSent: 3/24/2006 4:21 PM
Hi MasterGunner, I always enjoy reading your posts, and as usual, you are up there with Ol' Winnie for being right on the money. I sent a friend your W.C. quote(complete with footnote), and she sent back to the effect, " he sounds racist,,,he shouldn't be allowed to post stuff like that on the internet",meening Winston,,,,it's sad when a colledge
grad can't read footnotes or doesn't know who Winston Churchill was. I'd
 
 say that it was just another example of over PC in youth, but she's almost 40 with a masters degree! I'll just chalk her up to liberal brain rot,,,,a wasting disease, who's only cure is a personal and blatent run in with the truth.

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From: MasterGunnerSent: 3/25/2006 3:52 PM
You are right on target with your observations on the state of our people's education.  Several years ago, a friend of mine was in grad shool.  He was pursung a double doctorate in both physics and chemistry!  To supplement his income, he became a teaching assistant in the labs for the incoming students.  I can remember how he lamented the quality of the students he was teaching.  Mind you, these observations are nearly 10 years old.
 
Complaint:  We have to spend the first one or two semesters (one half to whole part of the frist year) teaching our students what they should have learned in high school.  The kids are missing the most basic analytic skills.
 
Complaint:  I have never taught dumber kids.  Correction, each year they get dumber than the last.  We were doing an experiment to measure torque.  In one instance, they got everything setup in the illustration, but nothing was connected together.  They had completely missed it in the text and drawings.  They couldn't figure out why nothing worked.
 
Complaint:  The problem with the kids I'm teaching is that they are deficient in the most basic of skills and they don't know it.  They've been filled full of self-esteem propaganda in K through 12.  Yes, they feel really superior to everyone else until they slam head-first into the sciences.  They just can't deal with it -- there are absolutes in science.  It is either right or it is wrong; 2 + 2 = 4, not 3 or 5 or anything else.
 
Complaint:  The current college diploma actually means nothing unless the degree is an engineering degree, or in math, or physics, or chemistry.  Kids graduating with degrees in these disciplines actually have to know how to apply what they have learned.  Then there are those in the arts and social sciences who don't know that they don't know.  They are blissfully unaware of their colossal ignorance.
 
Complaint:  I am exhausted at dealing with educationally handicapped students caused by our present educational system.
 
The sad part is that the situation has gotten progressively worse and not better when it comes to education.  We have a system that produces functional illiterates.  Now we have to deal with large numbers of students (children of illegal aliens) that don't speak English and see no need to learn it. 
 
I am a dinosaur from another age.  When I graduated from high school in 1964, or school had given me the equivalent of a half to one year's junion college level of education.  I was glad that I had it in college, because it prepared me for the difficult work I did there.  One semester I took several courses for my major at the local junior college.  I made the observation that it was just like going back to high school only there were ash trays for the smokers in the halls.
 
If there is one lasting thing that the "baby boomers" did to education, then the student radicals of the late 1960's and early 1970's have done it.  They have contaminated the eduation system of the universities with their radical socialist nonsense.  They came into academia and stayed to infect it though the process of tenure.  They replicated themselves in the educational departments by only accepting those with their own warped views.  The disease of the colleges and universities has spread like a cancer thoughout even the primary and secondary schools.  Very few of them and their students have escaped contamination.  I count myself lucky as I look upon the absolute bilge that passes itself as "education."