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Open Topic Forum : HMCS Corner Brook Approaches Aircraft Carrier Undetected
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From: MasterGunner  (Original Message)Sent: 8/7/2007 3:03 PM

HMCS Corner Brook Approaches Aircraft Carrier Undetected
Maple Leaf (DND/Canadian Forces ^ | 2007-07-25 | Darlene Blakeley

 

Above:  Fleet flagship HMS Illustrious (R06) as seen through the periscope of HMCS Corner Brook (SSK868).  The latter is one of four diesel-electric submarines of the Victoria (ex-Upholder) class purchased from the UK when its submarine fleet went all nuclear.

This recently unclassified photo was taken as the result of manoeuvres during Exercise NOBLE MARINER in May where HMCS Corner Brook was able to approach a high value unit, in this case the British aircraft carrier HMS Illustrious, without being detected. Anti-submarine warfare continues to be one of the most under-estimated and difficult threats for allies and potential adversaries to deal with.

“The picture represents hard evidence that the submarine was well within attack parameters and would have been successful in an attack,�?says Commander Luc Cassivi, commander Submarine Division in Halifax. “This situation enabled the crew to demonstrate advanced warfare skills and their ability to get the job done. The commanding officer, Lieutenant-Commander James Clarke, and crew were obviously very satisfied and proud of their performance.�?

Exercises like NOBLE MARINER provide the Navy with an opportunity to put into practice advance warfare scenarios, which closely depict the realities of a battle at sea.

“For the Victoria-class submarines, results like this clearly demonstrate that warfare skills within the community are at a high standard regardless of the challenges still remaining with getting the weapon capability onboard,�?says Cdr Cassivi. “The performance of our submarines during these exercises sends a clear message to our allies that despite our class introduction challenges, we are maintaining our warfare skills to a high standard.�?/P>



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From: MasterGunnerSent: 8/7/2007 3:08 PM
MG Note:  You can bet one thing from this photo, the ASW escorts' and carriers' ASW helo commanders are getting an a** chewing for allowing the sub to get a periscope shot of the ship.  Admirals and carrier commanding officers do NOT like to get "Bang! You're dead." photos from submarine captains -- especially RN bosses from RCN subdrivers.

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From: MSN NicknameriverChief6572Sent: 9/13/2007 5:28 PM
somebodies career just went down the tubes (pun intended)
 
da riverChief

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From: MasterGunner01Sent: 9/13/2007 6:14 PM
RADM Daniel V. Gallery (his task group of five DE's and one CVE captured the U-505 German submarine in World War 2) was quite a writer of short stories about the Navy published by the Saturday Evening Post.  Most of the stories centered about a first class aviation boatswain's mate known as "Fatso."  The story that illustrates how paranoid carrier commanders (and embarked admirals) get about subs that sneak past the ASW forces protecting the carrier was in the "Disappearing Periscope."
 
In the story, the commanding officers of the carrier's ASW squadrons and escorting destroyers assured the admiral and carrier's captain that they'd sink every "enemy" submarine coming remotely close to the carrier.  As I recall, AB1 "Fatso" had run afoul of one or more of these officers and decided to cause them some well-deserved grief.  That came in the form of 10 old sonobouys, some turned down wooden dowels to resemble submarine periscopes, some paint, some cut glass to simulate the periscope lens, and some carbon dioxide cartridge inflaters for life rafts.  The sonobouys had the dummy periscopes lashed to them and the CO2 cartridges provided some water spray to simulate a periscope wake. 
 
When the exercise commenced, "Fatso's" boys would dump one of the "enemy submarines" over the side of the carrier after the attacking forces said they'd found or killed an "enemy submarine."  By the time the ASW forces whirled about to find and attack the new threat, the sonobouy with the dummy periscope had sunk.  (Sonobouys are designed to float for so long as they hunt passively or actively for submarines.  The sonobouy broadcasts their sonar data to airborne ASW aircraft, and the sonobouy sinks after a predetermined time.)
 
By the end of the exercise, the ASW escorts and aviators were convinced they'd been surrounded by a zillion "enemy" submarines; the carrier's captain and the admiral were very upset; and the real "enemy" submarine commanders could not figure out why everyone was being so tight lipped.  All of the attacking real "enemy" submarines had been detected and "sunk" before they could get within torpedo range of the carrier.

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