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Politics & BS : 78-Year Old Fends Off Teenage Burglary Sustpect (Illinois)
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From: MasterGunner  (Original Message)Sent: 5/26/2006 7:15 PM

MG Note: Here in the People's Republic of Illinois, USA, we have sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs.  Unfortunately, not all the wolves are teenage burglars -- they are politicians and other elected officials.  We do our best to keep them at bay and, in this instance, a 78-year old ex-Marine and disabled firefighter refused to be a victim.  Well done to him from the other sheepdogs who refuse to play into liberal guilt-influenced policies.  Contrast this with the attitudes of the police and legal community in the UK; they would have prosecuted the old man and allowed the 14-year old to sue him for damages after the old guy got out of prison.  Not here.  Not yet.

78-Year-Old Fends Off Teenage Burglary Suspect (IL)
CBS2 ^ | May 23, 2006 | Staff

(CBS) RIVERDALE A teenager who tried to rob a house is recovering after being shot by an elderly homeowner who decided to fight back.

But it's the life-and-death struggle that unfolded in south suburban Riverdale that stunned police.

The victim is a 78-year-old ex-Marine, who is also a disabled former firefighter.

The robbery suspect is 14-years-old.

Police say the teen surprised the homeowner. He took a pair of pruning shears, hit him in the head and left him for dead.

But, somehow, as the teen ransacked the house, the victim got up, got his gun and shot the suspect four times.

"This 78-year-old man today refused to be a victim. He was fighting for his life and today, he won," said Police Chief Pete Satriano.

The suspect is under arrest but still hospitalized.

That feisty homeowner has been treated and released.



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From: MSN NicknameResoluteGurgSent: 5/28/2006 1:45 PM
Way to go sir. 
 
When I see such a story, it puts a smile on my face.  Just goes to show you where our society is headed.  
 
Fortunately for him, his old age any physical state should play in his favour.  If it would have been a younger fit person, the scales would have probably turned the other way.
 
(I'VE GOT A GOOD RANT, read on if you want)
 
 To break and enter is a crime worth punishment.  But to enter another persons home and kill.  There is no place for that kind of behaviour, NONE.  I have a wife and three small children.  Believe me, the guy would be stopped in his tracks.   If he'd be unarmed, i'd tell him to get out of the house.   He'd have the option to back out.  But if he'd be armed, there would be no question in my mind.   I'D RATHER BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY SIX.  I've been to Bosnia, Africa and Afghanistan.  There is no way in hell, that some local, worthless scumbag would endanger my family.
 
Here, in Canada our judicial system is a bad joke.  And it's getting worse everyday.  Where else can someone live off crime during the summer months and not get picked up.   And then as winter approaches, ensure that they get nabbed so that they can spend the winter months in jail with a roof over their heads and three meals a day.   Trust me, I know this for a fact.   Some of the guys I grew up with are into this lifestyle.  And I resent them for it.  Some of the money I pay in taxes keeps them at their old habits.
 
I'll probably open a can of worms on this one.   But here it goes.  LETS BRING BACK THE DEATH PENALTY IN CANADA.   For those that are against it, give the next few lines a lookover and then ponder over it again. 
 
For those that commit murder and have witnesses on hand to provide testimony,there should be no clemency.  For those that have no witnesses on hand and are tried with circumstancial evidence, their must be a fair trial. (Same as there is now).   The person is considered innocent until overwhelming evidence confirms the contrary .  
 
Look at the ages of some of the folks committing murder today.  They are getting younger and younger.  Kids for crying out loud.   And they are getting away with it.  THERE IS NOTHING FOR THEM TO FEAR.  How bad can reform scool be ?  Jail, it's a joke.   I'll be out soon.
 
Why the hell should we keep these kind of people alive ?  Is there any way to reform them ?  Really ? 
 
   It's when I hear of serial killers making plea bargains to show where they've buried or diposed of the bodies.  WHAT.  Is this for real ?   Come on people, wake up !!!!!!!  Making deals ?
 
  Taxpayers have to pay over $70,000 to keep 1 inmate in jail for a year.  And when the vast majority are released, do they become productive citizens ?  Some do.  But unfortunaetly many don't.  There is no deterrent.   The vast majority of today's laws are a joke.
 
There is a statement out there:   Crime doesn't pay.   Yeah right.   The message isn't getting through out there.  And unfortunately things aren't going to get any better unless things change.
 
 
Thats my five cents for the day.

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From: MasterGunnerSent: 5/28/2006 5:26 PM
Well said. 
 
Elsewhere in the L1A1 Armourer you'll find that article posted on "Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs."  Without people and attitudes like yours, the sheep would be totally at the wolves' mercy.
 
I have never understood the mindset that cannot recognize there is Evil in the world.  Good and Evil exist.  Period.  End of story.  People must understand that this is not some philosophical exercise.  Where good and evil are in conflict (everywhere), some folks are going to get hurt or killed.  That is the reality of the situation.
 
In this world, Evil many times wears a "smiley face" but that is only a disguise to hide the real purpose.  To ignore the evil is to empower it.  Denial and fake "feel good" laws do not make Evil go away; they just guarantee that the evil will exact a much higher toll on society.
 
There is a joke that begins, "How do you tell a Conservative?  A Conservative is a Liberal that has been mugged."  The problem for those of us that live in the real world  -- as opposed to the Liberals that live in a make-believe parallel universe -- is we see and understand Evil for what it is.  Liberals do not admit to the concept of good vs. evil; for them it's all about situational ethos and feeling good about themselves.
 
That is why misguided Liberals want to neuter and disarm the sheepdogs in our society -- effectively make them sheep -- so they don't have to deal with their deep denial about the wolves that prowl our society.  Worse yet are the Liberals who have thrown their lot with the wolves.  The Liberals are still sheep, but they are offering up all the other sheep in the hope that the wolves won't eat them.  This has always been a flawed strategy and always backfires, but you can never convince a muddle-headed Liberal of this stupidity.
 
Instead, they lash back at the very people who would protect them from Evil.  Why?  Because they transfer all their fears and inadequacies onto the people who would defend them from Evil.  And so, the Evil grows.  It is fed by fools who would throw everyone else to the wolves with the knowlege (in their minds) that the wolves won't somehow harm them -- once they've feasted on all the other sheep.
 
MG