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 Message 1 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameWomyn of_3©  (Original Message)Sent: 11/1/2008 5:25 AM
If you look at the What's New page; I am starting a list on the page of where everyone is moving to.
 
If you are a manager moving your group; let me know here and I will add it to the page.
 
If you are a member of a group, and know where the manager has said their group is moving to; then let me know and I will add it also.
 
I need the name of the MSN group and the URL where it will be moving to.
 
I am hoping this helps to keep everyone in contact with others
 
 
Blessed be


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 Message 82 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMars832Sent: 12/4/2008 4:31 AM
"So which is it Joey?" for me to say it NF i must be listening.
"Joey was kissing Curtis' ass and LYING to that group" is that what you see NF? again i don't kiss butt. i supported curtis in the past in old fights in other groups. I also blackmailed MSN to bring back XP or i won't tell them where the porn-bots were hiding. when bugs fought against the managers of XP he didn't fight he cut and run. then talked smack about them in other groups. its like being a friend with someone and keeping them updated on things they may not know what is going on.
 
NF i already admit what i did was wrong. long ago. a week after i left here i decided to confess what happened in the end only 2 people were on my case. no one else really cared of it.
 
like i said i don't know the doc person anymore.
 
"This Doc, who like many of us, stood up for you and offered you friendship, whom you stabbed in the back," you know whats funny is that friends listen to eachother and help eachother out. when i told doc of MSN tigger happy finger...i did say i was going try to get it invaild or such...or cancel the report. instead she went to behind my back and stabbed me 1st. so the Doc i knew of a friend no longer exists to me. no connection to me. yeah i knew her but not anymore as now i am completely forgetting about that person.
 
"the fight between me and you is over as a new fight between me and pikes just got started.
I hate fights. I HATE fights. What part of that don't you understand?" to hate fights to the begin with you wouldn't comment much about me or the fight a couple months ago.
" no several communities of good people who are decent and really worth knowing" lets see... in the past reported 4 out of 5 groups got them shuttered for troll infested porn and road kill... shuttered thousands of kids porn... tried to shutter Free Speech Headlines many times in all that failed. and PU shuttered for a couple days returned after all the posts in cool stuff is legit. as for the grinder and XP that wasn't me.
 
"The MSN closure in a few months is probably a blessing for you, because maybe you can start fresh." yes it is because my past my history will be lost within the closing of MSN.
 
"to say 'never do anything like this again!' Change your nic, your name... start over." i like the Mars name. as for never for it again its a working matter. tried Weather and Sunny long ago...had too many guys flirting on me with the 'sunny' sn...
 
"Message 73" it is something you should of done with jeff. act you don't know the guy and don't give him years of attention as you did. As this is what she wanted on her end and so i'm going respect her wishes and forget i ever knew her.
 
"Message 75" i've done alot of things wrong NF. and the thing is to try to learn from it. you see the last time a spoke about more of myself people i thought i could trust the creator of FSH burned me with it. so in the end i kept more of myself other than my health or if i got a job away from the computer. i learned already i should not expect everyone to like me and that i may piss people off or hurt them in a way. but in all to try to look forward and look to the future and hating or stuck the past.
 
"Message 76" right yet weren't you trying to tell a manager how to run his group that your no longer a member of? and saving to the hard-drive never did that.
"Then it was discovered while he was approaching a reluctant apology" lets see... telling a different group about my actions of another group. (did that a week later) and leave all msn groups entirely. you do dang well that was never going be completed.
 
Joey
 
 

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 Message 83 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/4/2008 3:13 PM
What a lot of shit.
Tell me Joey....when are you going to learn? When are you finally going to discover that stabbing people in the back and lying to them isn't the way to build trust and gain friendships?
What a tool you are.
Let me straighten you out about a couple of things. I left XP management when I caught Leona lying about me on the manager's board. She thought I wouldn't see it, I did, and that was what tore it. I and a few others went to a board I created and started our own forum, which soon became the Grinder.
Next, the Grinder was never "left for dead." When I left that forum to start PU it was still alive and well, and people actually began posting there who hadn't been heard from in some time. My guess is that they were waiting for all the nastiness to go away. Pikes has kept it going quite well, and I am happy to hear he has continued it at Aimoo. Needless to say, I doubt you'll be around to participate.
Lastly, yes...the goals I set for myself when I started PU have been met. Things have slowed considerably since the elections, but I expected that. We'll be moving to Live Groups very shortly, and hopefully much of the membership there will come along. Again, you won't be among us.
You broke every trust I and others put in you Joey, and you continue to try and somehow justify your actions by lying about it to yourself and us. What are you going to do, now that everyone is moving? Well, who knows...maybe you'll finally find the time to get yourself a life.
Imagine that.

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 Message 84 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/4/2008 3:36 PM
Oh, and by the way, Joey...you were wrong again. Live Groups is not limited to 20 members per group. That only pertains to "group conversations" using the Live Messenger feature (similar to "chat").
 
"Groups with up to 20 members can have group conversations using Windows Live Messenger. Members will be able to see the e-mail address and online status of other members in Messenger."
 
You really don't know shit about anything, do you.

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 Message 85 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConLaz�?/nobr>Sent: 12/4/2008 5:53 PM
I hope you like the Live Groups better than I do, Bugs.
 
I created one for my group, just to reserve the name
more than anything else because it's nothing more (IMHO)
than a glorified blog.
 
Please warn your membership to be careful of what
email they use to join because it will be visible to all.
 
You also can't create other boards or do custom pages
like you can at MSN groups, by the way, at least not any
way I can see.

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 Message 86 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/4/2008 6:36 PM
I think the other features will be added over the next few months, 'Laz...and the e-mail thing really doesn't bother me much, especially since so many people use made-up addresses when they join groups anyway.
Really, the format isn't all that different than what we're used to anyway.

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 Message 87 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameConLaz�?/nobr>Sent: 12/4/2008 7:27 PM
Have you actually created your new group yet, Bugs?
 
The only reason I am asking is because you don't
get to choose which email you sign up with like MSN Groups- you
have to log into Windows Live and then join the particular
Window's Live Group so whatever address you
used to create your Window's Live identity is
displayed.
 
The format is nothing like MSN Groups, at least
not as far as the custom pages are concerned, a feature
I have used extensively at my MSN Group.
 
 

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We can agree to disagree on this one but to my mind the only thing that resembles MSN Groups

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 Message 88 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/4/2008 7:40 PM
Yeah, I started the group up, and so far people are signing up pretty regularly. I'm still playing around with it.
I can't see people's e-mail addresses at all...though I have noticed that I can change the privacy features pretty easily.

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 Message 89 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/4/2008 7:44 PM
Ah....I take that back, I can see e-mail addresses. Still, that shouldn't be a huge issue...e-mail can easily be blocked, and of course I'd boot anyone who abused the feature.

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 Message 90 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMars832Sent: 12/4/2008 10:35 PM
"When are you finally going to discover that stabbing people in the back and lying to them isn't the way to build trust and gain friendships?" just the same time your going learn that giving me a board after banning me a couple times maybe in good faith but would forgive the actual backstab. i didn't like it to begin with. you did it to me 1st bugs. you over stepped your power time to time and kicking me out on anything i said bad about you or your group. after my mistake i made months ago you again stepped over the lines trying to tell a manager how to run there board. so bugs when i do learn i hope it is the same time you learn as well.
 
"I left XP management when I caught Leona lying about me on the manager's board. She thought I wouldn't see it, I did, and that was what tore it. I and a few others went to a board I created and started our own forum, which soon became the Grinder." don't care because it is a OLD fight that has nothing do with my business much and it happened in private which spilled over an no longer existing XP.
"Next, the Grinder was never "left for dead." " actually bugs you pulled your own membership from the group. instead of fighting back you ran.
"the goals I set for myself when I started PU have been met." was that the goals of you posting 500-600 messages weekly or that members had the chance to post on there own time?
"Again, you won't be among us" not planning to bugs.
"What are you going to do, now that everyone is moving? Well, who knows...maybe you'll finally find the time to get yourself a life." what i do i won't annouce it. besides i am not posting over 100 messages in my group just to get people...unlike what you did...kinda says you got not much of a life...
"Message 84" hmm oddly enough i got all that info from snooping at PU.
 
Joey

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 Message 91 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/5/2008 4:19 AM
I "overstepped my bounds" by booting you from my group, Skippy? No....regardless of what you think, that isn't the case. They were my groups, I started them, and they were not democracies. Funny how you don't get that, and even funnier that in the end I was proven to be correct. You're a shit-starting little troll, and that's really all you've ever aspired to be.
The funniest thing of all, Joey? You prove it yourself, all the time....you just don't see it.

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 Message 92 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameMars832Sent: 12/5/2008 7:42 AM
after you did it once bugs of kicking a member out of the for speaking there minds in a different group where you couldn't control ones thoughts was where you crossed the line.
Which after you did apologize for your actions once again you did it again. Which you banned me of the partly expose-no-password-protected information on people who view or post something on the site. Also I couldn't say what it was since i say the other old issue out infront of all. Then there was the deal of i shouldn't tell you the managers what to do because its your group...

Yes all groups created by you was showing how much control freak you are...I already figure that out after the lost the trust and respect i had with you...

Actually bugs... what i am is an igorant, stubborn, aggresive, kind, moron, at times a retard, and also likes the attention given...but a troll thats not me. The ones i pissed of was the so-called friends i had online and not a whole group.

Joey

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 Message 93 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/5/2008 2:21 PM
I reinstated you because I felt badly over the way I had treated you, Joey, not because I felt bad about booting you. You weren't booted for speaking your mind, you were booted for constantly harassing the managers over MSN "rules" after being told over and over to let it go.
My mistake was feeling bad for you after it was all over. You're a troll all right. You rarely contributed anything of substance to any forum, preferring always to butt in to other people's arguments or harass managers for the way they ran their boards.
I had actually reached a point where I liked you for a while there....and then you stabbed me in the back the first time you didn't get your way.
Nothing you do or say is ever going to change that, and the only regret I have now is that I gave you the opportunity to try it. I should have turned my back on you the first time I booted you and never looked back.

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 Message 95 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknamePikesPeak14110Sent: 12/5/2008 3:52 PM
 
Butting in? Not quite.
 
I too, gave him the benefit of doubt more than once. In fact, by his own
admission above, I "let" a troll go on and harass me for a long time, which
is some indication of patience.
 
I became irritated when he returned to the same old managerial meddling,
after being nicely asked to stop (he didn't), firmly asked to stop (he didn't),
 forcefully asked to stop (he didn't), told to stop (he didn't), warned to stop
(he didn't), threatened to stop or else (he didn't), and finally booted, because
that was the only way left to stop him.
 
What did him in for me, was the parallel, half hearted, half felt, reluctant,
forced approach to apology, written simulataneously with posts on XP
for Curtis, reinforcing the lies all over again, omitting important details,
to make everyone except him look like uncaring, unforgiving, irrational,
whimsical people who wronged him for no good reason. Of course,
there were individuals at XP who delighted in seeing you and I pulled
into the Inferno.
 
When he moves, it would be fitting for him to abandon the name Mars,
god of war, and adopt the name Loki, who is a more fitting god for the
domain in which he functions.

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 Message 96 of 96 in Discussion 
From: MSN NicknameBugsYouAgainSent: 12/5/2008 6:13 PM
I think both of us treated Joey far more fairly than he ever deserved, Pikes. In fact, I don't just think it, I know it.

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