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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4  (Original Message)Sent: 10/1/2008 4:03 PM
im not looking to hassle with you, you did however bring some of this trouble upon yourself regarding illegal immigration.
 
now i want to plainly state that having lived in new mexico, i met and was very fond of more than afew mexican americans i met and worked with while there, and i fully understand the land grant process which was honored, and i also understand what illegal immigration has wrought.
 
the west has la eme, ms13, the mongols, and frankly more than afew latino gangs operating bringing drugs, and death to any that stumble into their path.
 
i have seen mexican migrants working in the fields, it didnt look like a pleasant life to me, but i cannot get around the absoloute reality that the laws of this country inre immigration have been trashed.  alittle over 100 years ago, my mothers people left moldavia, sailed to sailed on a trmp steamer to england, then to america on a british registered ship.  before they could enter, they had to provide an address, had to pass the required physicals, and when they entered did not enter into lives of crime, its not much different today for people from all over this planet who desire to come to america, it has been however very different for those of mexico, and central america, although i have met hondurians, and columbians who are here legally, and most work their asses off everyday.
 
in a very real way what stimulated me to post this was a statement you made in another forum, you asked if whites felt entitlement to america, in fact if only whites felt that, that to me was running a race game, the same game whites have tolerated from blacks for decades now, both games are wrong, and in my opinion arguments of both weakness regarding those making them, and of course the absolute denial of responsibility caonjcerning the defecating on the laws of this country, and to be honest this is one white that simply doesnt want to hear this crap anymore, nor will i tolerate it in any manner.
 
when you made that statement i just couldnt help but think of how it was a slight on every person of latino heritage in this country that works toward their american dream every damned day.  jerry


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From: MSN NicknameSTX49©Sent: 10/1/2008 4:22 PM
Trick-
 
Don't know exactly what you're talking about, but after reading the OP and the way your ancestors came to the US.....the same way mine did from Scotland via England on the Ship America, there is no Ellis Island for immigrants to come through.
 
So, in reference to the illegal aliens from Mexico, if they don't want to come to the US the legal way like all the other citizens from other countries with the proper documentations...............then keep their ass on their side of the Rio Grande.

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/1/2008 4:29 PM
well stx, most of what i referred to where summer was concerned occured in another forum, however my people didnt come thru elolis either, then entered at the port of philadelphia.
 
i have no problem with legal immigration either, i support it fully, and it is my belief that placing a drag on americans to satisfy some defense coalition which nafta is inre mexico, is not just cause for breaking our own laws,our border towns are now battle zones, our western cities rivwal hell they may surpass the crime of eastern cities, and frankly i be damned if im even remotely interested in learning spanish.  my great grandfather, was russian, he spoke only russian and hebrew, i still have his 2 volume history of america, one side written in hebrew the other in english in fact that is how he taught himself the english language, my grandmother told me that he swore he would speak the language of his new home america before he died and he did, and every child in his family was expected to learn english.  he said that we are americans, and we will live and die as americans, and it is still so.  jerry

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From: MSN NicknameWomyn of_3©Sent: 10/2/2008 4:46 AM
I know what he is talking about, STX.
In almost every forum you have to tippy-toe around with using the correct, or unoffensive, word for a race, or color, of a people. And you have to be careful not to use stereotypes in a derogatory manner.
For example: someone can say 'black power' and it is understood as an affirmation of the black race. Someone can say 'white power' and it is said to be racist. The same rules are not applied across the board.
 
Blessed be

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From: MSN NicknameSummerMoondancer1Sent: 10/2/2008 11:33 AM
Womyn to me both are racist terms...however, after reading his latest rant on black people being the only ones who commit crimes and beat up folks I have to say he is the last person who should be commenting on such an issue.

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From: MSN NicknameGraphicQueen_RVSent: 10/2/2008 2:08 PM
Anyone with a brain knows that blacks are not the only ones who commit crimes, but I don't think that is what he meant or what he said. But then, you have always been good at seeing things that are not there with people's posts.
 
GQ

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/2/2008 7:56 PM
well sum mer to respond to your blather relating to my rascist positionjs, i like parady, and i always figured if people of color can bash whites or southerners or christians, i can bash people of color, of course you failed to address that the forum you speak of has consistantly called anyone white that doesnt pray to the obama messiah, or kiss illegals asses rascists, so im just giving them vwhat they want, i rather enjoy pushing the buttons and watchin g them all go blotto, afterall if one puts up a genuine piece of work in most forums, its pretty well ignored, so stupidity, follow the lead and rascism is the mode in the forums, dont get pissed at me for giving the people what they want, now please respond to the thread.  jerry

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/2/2008 8:09 PM
ill give ya an example of what i mean, i put up this trash thread about some black guy beating a black girl up at a mcdonalds, 52 responses, 2 recomendations, another member puts up a bailout facts post, 17 responses, no recomendations, i rest my case.  jerry

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From: MSN NicknameWomyn of_3©Sent: 10/3/2008 9:55 AM
Did somebody say Messiah Obama???
 
 
Blessed be

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