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for non believers in fact rabid haters of a conception of a god, this will hold no water, or will it. for the life of me i cant figure out whether the religiously rabid or lukewarm religious manipulators are in any way different from one another both defecate on the concept of christ, both create and both adhere to whatever tidbits sanctify their positions, in short jesus is politicized, degraded, and even negated. the result has been the inch by inch paving of the antichrists road into this world, and the emergence is now upon us, the anti god way is here. there is no 666 to herald or parlor game, there is only the finality of the coming reality. i do not however despair in fact i anticipate, i look forward to this time, why might you wonder, well its really quite simple. this is the time of the end of this way of things, the times warned about, the times secretly yearned for, the time of the coming, and recoming is upon us. jerry |
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mr. bill, in fact what jesus proposed would have resulted in nothing less than violent revolution, to establish, or better stated reestablish the kingdom of god, aka throne of david would have caused instant conflict between rome and those advocating overthrowing herod and the sanhedrin, why so many people ignore that politics and religion are one and the same is beyond me. jerry |
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| | From: rnrbill | Sent: 12/7/2008 4:45 PM |
Jerry: You can post speculation and opinion but please state that the eventuality of the Jesus movement as preached by Jesus leading to violent revolution is an opinion or post where he preached violent revolution. Ghandi fostered and led a peaceful revolution. Remember his, Jesus', Army was Not Of This World. As for politics and religion being one and the same, I never said they weren't intrically linked. The Politics of the Christian West is in Conflict with the Politics of Islamic East and has been for what seems to be forever. Each political leader has been espopusing Christian, Islamic, and in Israel, Judaic doctrine. As the saying goes more people have been killed in the name of God than for any other reason Herod ruled with the approval of Rome and the Jewish leaders were addressed in postm 52. |
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speculation ans opinion, well from the gentile mythos perspective i suppose you might say that, but again, and again it seems jeus was a semite, a hebrew, not a greek or a roman, and fact is the messianic concepts vary, you may as a christian expound otherwordly kindoms, but the jews knew and still know what the messianic concept means, and it will never come from a hippy or a ghandi. jerry |
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