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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4  (Original Message)Sent: 10/23/2008 2:12 PM
 
how does one claim loyalty to a counjtry by betraying it for ones own sake and comfort.  how does one maintain a country by not defending it and its principles.  how does anyone call another unpatriotic whenh they only care for the color of their skin or their own peoples welfare then proclaim solidarity with everyone else?  isw love of country a new car or a flat screen tv, or owning a house worth 200k, on a 50k salary?
 
those who call others liars are quite frankly liars themselves, in fact in america the biggest liar takes home the prize.  it will all be lost, why, its quite simple, anyone that puts themselves before country doesnt have a country.  jerry


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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/24/2008 8:58 PM
even if its in the best interests of your country to do so?  jerry

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From: MSN NicknameBadBobTxSent: 10/24/2008 9:41 PM
even if its in the best interests of your country to do so? 
 
What does that even mean, and who gets to decide what is best?
Bob
 
 

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/25/2008 12:35 AM
  Jerry thinks that he does. He's all for going to war to beneft another country as long as that country is Isreal. He cares little that it's other people's American kids that do the fighting and dying. He doesn't give a hoot that it makes us more, not less vulnerable to terrorist attacks. He doesn't care wether or not the expense in American tax dollars spent puts us into debt for generations to come. He doesn't care that America is in the grip of an economic crisis as a result. He places the good of Isreal above that of the USA. He doesn't care that all our military and other aid to Isreal will never be reciprocal. He doesn't care that Isreal has never sent a dime to the US except to try to affect US policy to the benefit of Isreal. He tries to convince us that all this is to the benefit of the US. Of course, the sane folks know far better than Jerry. All that really matters is his religious support of Isreal. He is blind to the detrimental effects it has had on the US. Some freaking patriot, huh?

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 2:33 PM
stake out your cave yet in alska, alaska, you need to vote for obama, cmon just show your americanismk, strange adherence to love of country though, wont defend it until its under siege, and of course take every chance you get to state i amk pro israel and antiamerican, so then who is it thats deciding?  jerry

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/25/2008 8:26 PM
  You posted on another board that you were thinking of giving up your American citizenship and it was because of your support for Isreal. You place the good of Isreal above the good of the US. What defense could you possibly have for that position? Bah! Nobody said anything about not protecting America until she is under seige except for you. Sending our kids to die for Isreal and sending our hard earned tax dollars to Isreal is not in any way defending America. Americanism does not entail any of that. Americanism is all about America. Zionism is all about Zion even to the detriment of America. Now don't go calling me a Jew hater again because that is simply untrue. Isreal is not a religion. Isreal is not a race. There are more Jews in America than there are in Isreal and they are my fellow American citizens. I would fight and die in their defense.

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 8:29 PM
thats right ill be goddamned if im goikng to become like you, your a malcontent a hater, a waste of breath, now go slink back into your cave.  jerry

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 8:34 PM
oh how he lies, sorry pal im not about to be fighting in americas streets with your charles lindbergh mindsets.  jerry

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/25/2008 8:46 PM
  Wow! You have a heck of an imagination. Baseless acusations like "Hater" don't do anything to advance any real point. They just show that you really cannot defend your position, but I already knew that.

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 9:17 PM
ah please defend my popstion to whom an isolationist, thats like handing coffee to a wino.  jerry

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/25/2008 9:42 PM
  I guess you still don't know the difference between an isolationist and a non-interventionist. I already schooled you about that so you should know that you are making another baseless accusation. I am a non- interventionist. Calling me something else is also no way to advance a point. It is merely dishonest and disengenuous. It merely proves that you are incapable of defending your position. I have stated mine and you have made up lies about me. I guess I should have expected that. That's exactly what you did the last time we discussed this topic. LOL! That's when you had a little hissy fit and declared the conversation over. Do try to make a valid point or refute one of my points with facts rather than false accusations of anti-semitism or just running away, please? Speaking of wino's, who taught you how to write, Jack Daniels? Jim Beam? Johnny Walker? Samuel Adams?

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 9:45 PM
do me a favor pal stop schooling me i live in 2008  you in 1789.  jerry

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/25/2008 10:32 PM
  LOL! Thank you very much for proving my point! BWAHAHAHA!

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From: MSN Nicknametrickoftheflame4Sent: 10/25/2008 11:13 PM
yeah you neocons are legends in your own minds  jerry

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From: MSN NicknamernrbillSent: 10/26/2008 5:34 PM
People here refer to Israel as an ALLY.  An Ally is one who assits.  Can anyone tell me the number of Israeli soldiers killed fighting alongisde its number one Ally, the USA in Nam, Grenada, Iraq one and two, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia or anwhere else?  I've looked around and can not fine ONE SINGLE incident of Israel assisting US in a comflict.  Better yet, they killed our own service people on board the USS Liberty.  Do the words "with friends like that etc/" come to mind?

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From: MSN NicknamealaskanfreeSent: 10/26/2008 7:08 PM
Jerry,
  No, I'm not a neocon and you know that damned well. You insist upon making up lies about me when I have only posted the truth. I post facts, you post lies about me. How in the world can you advance your argument when you spend your time lying about me? It just doesn't make you look good. I have been speaking out against the Bush administration and neoconservatism since I started posting in these groups and everybody knows it. Now, try to make your point, if you have one.........

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