mr bill you have compelled me to address your kickassed king vs pacifist statement. there are 2 ways to end the way of things, war, and conversion, theses are not mutually exclusive approaches, in fact they are mans approaches and history cements that.
was jesus a pacifist, i highly doubt that, he spoke or so they say of the two edged sword, i can thionk of nothing more unsettling than truth and its facets in your face, in fact it creates war within ones self. it was spoken of his return in the clouds, amid his army of angels, far fetched yes, but an army is an army. jerry