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General : I was visited by monks!
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From: MSN Nicknamelightwalker333  (Original Message)Sent: 9/16/2008 7:16 PM
 
This a personal experience i would like to share with you, growing up
was not the easiest thing for me my parent being in a religion that
if you had a different view point you would be disfellowshipped
which ment you couldnt talk to anyone you knew and even your
family wasnt supposed to talk to you until you came around and
viewd things the religions way of viewing it. My mother to as a
person would judge me and my sis very harshly and would
beleive others over us so we really felt like we were not worthy
of our own opinions and it was like listen but dont speak. Think
but only if it is in the standards of what  you are learning in the
church. Although I have moved passed all of this you all know
how the old can creep back in and we all need reminders. So heres
my experience of something that happined last night.
I was feeling aches and pains in my stomach and had a fever I
ended up going to bed early like at 700pm. I had so much pain
it was like flu symptoms. I heard this light beating on a drum
noise. I saw what it was like one of those ancient instruments that
you hold in your hands and make a rolling motion which causes
the string that is attached to the top to move and hit the drums. Its
an ancient instrument used to keep rythim and bring peace to
thoughts. Then they appeared the monks they were all around me
healing and talking to me. One stood out he looked like the Dalih
Lamma with blue eyes. While he was talking to me my pain was
gone. He told me its ok to show emotion even anger, you are human, emotions are part of you. You must live your life the way
you live it, not like others. People think people just want to hear the
good experiences of life, but then, how do we learn what to do with
hard times if you dont share those times also? Not everyone is going
to agree with messages you share but, that does not matter. There
will be one person that will need to hear the message you have to
give. Speak your thought do not hold back your words, they need to
be heard like everyone else. you will net speak words that has never
beed heard before for we are one and all have been there. You are
worthy to speak how you feel, so speak! Peace to you.
 
                                    Love lightwalker
 


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From: NanaSent: 9/22/2008 6:11 AM
What a great experience for you and what a great lesson for us all!  I wonder if they were a team of guides, or brought in as a  visitng teacher from your guides.  What do you think?   
 
Anger is something I've always had problems expressing, I usually harbor my feelings, then end up wanting  to say snide remarks to the person down the line.  grin.
I think feeling and letting go of anger is an art.  Any tips?
 
Most of us need some learning in that area.--Especially those who end up taking their feelings out in a physical way. 
 
nana

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From: MSN Nicknamelightwalker333Sent: 9/22/2008 3:18 PM
you might be on to something there about the visiting guide and
the team. All my life they have enjoyed playing different roles for
fun lesson learning ( and some not so fun lesson learning also heh)
This of course was fun and very informative and healing. I felt much
love and they kept bowing . I do have an asian guide who during the
years has instucted me on actient teachings.Ive always
been enthrawled about what the human body can do with disipline and
lots of meditaion. The art of dance is something i appreciate especially
something you can kind of make your own and be alittle more creative
with. It helps me with fear because Im busy with learning dance steps
and my mind is luued to the music and calmed. These are things that
help me, I think when you feel youve accomplished something on an
artistic level, and most important you have fun and absolutly love to do
it and feel renewed in a sense,, its like you are at a higher vibration and
so positive. This trains the mind in a way. Weird huh? But effective
and fun!
 
I have suffered with anger for a long time also but, when I feel an
episode coming on, I know Im doing something that is natural, and
can usually detect what really made me mad and sometimes its not
nessarally what someone did or said but something that I had a fear
about what was associated with the situation mostly and not JUST
the person. What about you Nana what do you do? You feel to
me like you have it together! ((hugs))
 
                                             Love lightwalker
 
 
 

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From: NanaSent: 9/24/2008 4:21 PM
Lightwalker,
 
Thanks for the compliment of having it together.   I keep on trying if nothing else  LOL .  Like is a journey and I'm always learning more.  I do think in my middle age mind I have a bit more wisdom than I did before, but alot of that came from doing a lot of  dumb things  
 
I have a variety of  guides too-(we all do)  depending on what I am needing at the time.  I just think that is so cool.   I've met some but for the most part they remain behind the scenes while they try to get through to my block headedness.   I have to thank them for their persisitance on my behalf. 
 
Oh yes,  You and your dancing are speaking to about something I use daily in my work.  I work with people suffering from mental illness while they are in a crisis and acute stages to levels of managed recovery.  We talk one on one and in groups to address the recovery model using tools and information that help people be their own advocates and managers in maintaining  their personal  recovery...and it works.  There is isn't a cure but there are coping skills that can be used to  attack those triggers that can bring on meltdowns before their life is completely interrupted.    Some of those include using music, It lifts the soul vibration like you say...and brings joy-even when you are feeling at your worst.  Some others are singing, poetry, journaling, exercise, meditations-spirituality - whatever gets your passions going.  
 
About anger, if I take a few moments to give it some thought, I usually come up with the realization that it is the situation that is making me angry, and not so much the individual.  Although   I run into some really ignorant people sometimes that I really just want to tell off.   I'm usually successful in trying to use my words in an intelligent respectful way to try to get my point across--but not always. 
 
Another thing I find is - and this is with family more often that not- something disturbing is happening within the family dynamics and I don't speak up and tell them how I feel.  Then I end up being resentful later on.  I have to work on this. 
 
Blessings
nana

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From: MSN Nicknamelightwalker333Sent: 9/24/2008 5:19 PM
working with the mentally ill is some realhard work.
It really alows you to dig deep inside yourself also and want to be
a better person for the people you teach and yourself especially.
Its really enlightening to see how creative thought really helps in
this area . You seem very fulfilled in this and what a wonderful
feeling you have to be helping in this way. I think all of us can
heve meltdowns if we are not careful and we all need to know
our own triggers that cause these. What empowerment it is to
maintain your own recovery of sorts with this disease ( in
understanding there isnt a full on cure) but, coming to a conclusion
that you are taking part in managing this. wow so empowering
for these people!!!
 
Thank you for sharing this with me it really made my day!
 
                                    Love lightwalker
 
 

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From: NanaSent: 9/29/2008 5:55 PM
HI,
 Yes, the work is very fullfulling and - and it does humble me.  These are some of the most creative  people I have ever met in one single place.  The people come and go home and new inpatients arrive- but the creativity amongst them is always abuntantly apparant.
 
I just went to the 12th annual crisis intervention conference in WI Dells, and was gleefully inspired to see that practictioners and providers are jumping on the recovery bandwagon all over the country...finally.
 
One of the most inspiring speakers was Pat Deegan PhD, who spents years dealing with schizophrenia,  obediently complying to large doses of drugs that kept her voices quieter, but also kept her far away form her true self, unable to think and feel through the fog of medication.   Fed up-She decided to take control and found that by using less medicine, and using headphones that would  drown out her voices she was able to think and feel again. (along with other coping techniques)  She went on to getting her Doctorate, becoming a famous author and speaker, and awesome advocate for the mentally ill.     If  you want to take a moment this is a very inspiring story that tells of incredible resiliency of the human spirit.
 
Nana

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