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God and Jesus : The True Oneness of God
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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn22  (Original Message)Sent: 9/5/2006 3:27 AM
(As I was moving some messages onto the Baptism thread, I found this under that.  It is so wonderful and clear on the many -membered Kingdom of God, and the true oneness of this kingdom, that I want to start a new thread for this message. 
 
 I want this to be seen and read by everyone.  It is the most beautiful and truthful message on this subject which I have ever heard.  I wrote this, as God gave it,  but truthfully,  I had completely forgotten this.  It really blessed my soul as I read this revelation.
 
And as I read it I now received another part of this revelation which I have been missing>>>>>  God is showing here that JESUS IS GOD'S GOD.   yes.
 
Larry, did you ever see this?  Glory!   God is showing how completely   ONE  they really are.  He called Jesus,   GOD.
 
He is actually saying,  Jesus is my God.   God said that.  Therefore   God,  even thy God hath anointed thee. 
 He is actually saying to Jesus,  You are my God and I am your God.
 
People,  if God calls Jesus his God,  how can anyone else not think of Jesus as God?  Better think this over.  and If Jesus calls God his God,  how can anyone think they are just the same one?  Are you saying that Jesus is his own God?  sheer foolishness!
 
See?  Such glory.  No wonder the Apostles counted all things common and loved each other so much.!)
 
btw.   I have forgotten to finish moving my messages on the Fall of the OT.  Just realized it.  I am very tired, been here almost all day,  but I hope to hold out to finish moving them.  that takes some doing.)
 
Now here is the wonderful  ONENESS  message:

From: joie Sent: 5/25/2003 5:55 PM
John 14:16-18
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter (explained below in 14:26 as the Holy Ghost), that he may abide with you for ever;
Even the Spirit of truth (explained below in 15:26 as the Holy Ghost); whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you (How did they know Him and How did He dwell with them?), and shall be in you.
I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. (Why does Jesus think He is the Comforter?)(apos.)

Now herein lies the confusion in your mind ~ You do NOT understand the true ONENESS of God.

See, it means being in perfect agreement and unity;  equals.  and that is precisely WHY  THERE HAS TO BE MORE THAN 1 BEING IN THE GOD FAMILY OR KINGDOM  OR  GODHEAD ====== IF THERE WERE no one involved except 1 and only 1 being, then this kind of ONENESS = glorious unity,  = love--- could not exist.

See, God just gave me this......  there is the perfect example of this 'oneness' = unity= equality of love-- amoung true saints displayed here between Isaiah and me.

He felt free to copy and paste messages I wrote on baptism.  He asked me about it, and I told him,  those are God's Word, therefore they are yours just the same as mine, yes, just copy them and use them.  It helped me out for I do not have time to do all the searching through back threads to find these things and put them on.

We work together as ONE.  Apparently this is something Satan's children know nothing about.

See he feels they are his messages for indeed they are.  Yet I was the one who typed them up.  But I do not feel they are MINE.  I told him, these are God's Words.  That is the true ONENESS.

The apostlic church, the only true one to have ever existed,  COUNTED NOTHING THEY OWNED AS THEIR OWN - THEY HAD ALL THINGS COMMON, OR EQUAL.

THEY DID NOT CALL ANYTHING THEY HAD AS BEING THEIR OWN.  NOW WHERE IS ANY CHURCH OR PEOPLE TODAY WITH THAT ATTITUDE?

I grant you, you cannot find it.  And another thing,  and God just gave this to me:

That is exactly why that FAKE,  FALSE   SO-CALLED APOSTOLIC CHURCH of today, the jesus-onlies,  are trying so desperatedly hard to deny this true unity and love of the God kingdom of many members and discredit their love and oneness by claiming jesus is the 1 and only 1 member of the Godhead;  for in denying the true nature of the ONENESS  of God, and claiming jesus-only,  Satan is , through them,  totally blacking and hiding and discrediting the real, true loving nature of God.

I told Isaiah, use anything I have typed up.  It is yours just the same as mine.  I also told him to copy and re-do any message I have on tape and do it in his own voice.  I said it is not necessary to put my name of it.  it is yours same as mine.  God gave it.  It is ours;  not mine.

I have also told this community to feel free to copy anything I have place here and put it elsewhere, just as long as they do not change it.  They do not have to credit me with the work,  That is not important - just carry the Word to others,  It is theirs same as mine.  I truly wish everyone here would do just that.  This word needs to be carried to as many people as can be reached.

Now that is exactly how it is with God.  That is why Jesus could say  I will come to you.  I will send you the comforter.  My Father will send you the comforter.  I am your comforter.  The Holy ghost is your comforter;  the Father is your comforter.  I am your Father.  My Father is your father.  etc.  Indeed, I have the whole kingdom of God withing me.  Jesus said so.  He said   The Kingdom is within you. Glory. 

PEOPLE,  REJOICE IN THIS GREAT TRUTH -- YOU HAVE THE WHOLE KINGDOM OF GOD WITHIN YOU -- THAT IS IF  YOU HAVE THE HOLY GHOST.  In his presence is the whole of God -- the Father, His Son and His whole spirit. Wow! Such glory.

This is why it is shown in Romans that we all three spirits inside us.  God has 7 spirits.

Romans 8: 9.  But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.

Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.


 10.  And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
 11.  But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

 (Now how many spirits does this show to be in us?  I know that you do not know the answer.)

They are ONE.  They are in complete unity with each other -- not claiming anything as their 'OWN'  but having all things  COMMON. 

That is what the true Apostolic church showed ~~~~  the true Nature of God;  for they had been given the true Nature of God by His Spirit which  DWELLED IN THEM.

Your false doctrine of Jesus only is trying to hide and black, and destroy this glorious knowledge of the real Love of God from the world.  God will destroy this fake church .

God will prove His true nature to this world - that of many members considering themselves to have all one and the same things.  Claiming nothing of your own.....  it is ours........ same as a husband and wife are suppossed to by  = one.

You can claim your house as yours; ours; hers; mine; our childrens;  is  it your  house?  Is it her house?  Is it the childrens house?  Whose house is it? 

This is the same kind of reasoning you are bringing up against God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost.  They consider it to be all of theirs.  they are ONE  in unity in harmony --- in love-- in having all things common.

The husband and wife are  ONE.

Get that?  Same as God and Jesus are ONE.  The very same way.  You, your wife and your 3 children are all ONE.




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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 10/25/2006 1:50 AM
Dear Freeborn,
Don't know what I was thinking about but John 1:1 came to my mind. Went searching on your board and found this. Jesus was the word-from the beginnig.
I have read that passage many many times-but the last of the verse Never clicked until tonight. Jesus was with God from the BEGINNING!!! How did I miss that?
How? I am sittting here just asking myself HOW did I miss it. How could Jesus be with God from the beginnig? It all goes back to Adam. Before Adam. Can you believe it? Well gotta go. Thought I would post this under this beautiful message. I did not understand JOHN 1:1 until I read this. Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/25/2006 3:00 AM
Tweety, dear tweety,
 
You are reading things into the Word of God which is not being said there.  You are reading things into my messages which are not said there.
 
Please, take it slow and work with me.  Do not jump to conclusions which are not there.  This is how people all back through the ages have missed truth and come up with all kinds of false teachings.
 
This is truly the most glorious message in existance.  God gave me this.  I did not get it studying or reading what others wrote.  God told me all of this, then showed it to me in His Word,  proving it.
 
You do as most other people do,  (not meaning any rebuke to you,  just trying to help you)--  you read words -- but because you already believe it a certain way, due to what others already pumped into your mind,  then you 'think' you 'see' it in the word. 
 
BUT KNOW,  THAT IT IS NOT THERE.
 
Truly this is a beautiful message.  I read it all before dropping down to see who sent it back up.
 
It was a blessing to me all over again.  That is how truth is.
 
Dear one,  Jesus is the beginning.  But the beginning of WHAT?
 
It says he is the ENDING.  So now what?  Most people just quote these words, over and over, without ever stopping to consider,  what does that mean?
 
Ending?    Ending of   what?  Eternity has no beginning or ending.  So this does not prove that Jesus is God.
 
Jesus is not the Word of God.  God put his word into the mouth, or mind, of Jesus.
Sure, if you can understand true oneness,  Jesus is the word, because he is one with it.  So am I. (not as completely as Jesus yet.)
 
So now what?
 
We are not God.  Yet God gave us equality with him.   it is a promise.  It is now real for Jesus.
 
Jesus was a full human man.  He was not God.
 
How many times do I have to say this?  Is anyone listening?
Jesus is A HUMAN MAN.
 
God glorified Jesus at his resurrection.  Then He ascended to Heaven, where God gave him all the same power and authority of God himself.
He sat down on the throne of God, there to rule as God.
Then God said,  God,  your God has anointed you ABOVE your fellows  =  other humans.
 
The Word of God was with God and was  God,   Not the man Jesus.
 
Jesus is now one with them.  But he was God's servant while on earth in human mortal flesh.
 
Do you understand?  All of this took place AFTER JESUS DIED, ROSE, AND ASCENDED TO HEAVEN........Then and only then,  was he called our God.
 
I wonder why people cannot get this truth?
 
Jo 
(well, now that eeyla posted her message,  I fully understand.)
am anxious to do a message using that revelation.

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From: MSN NicknameTweety134Sent: 10/25/2006 3:21 AM
Freeborn,
You ask the end of what? The end of sin being in this world. No more dying. No more lies from Satan and his followers. Evil doers. I believe that Jesus was the Word because as a human man he came here and gave us God's word. He was God's messenger. Yes he was flesh when he was on earth. Just like you and me. He gave us God's message. He knew he was going to die. I will read more of this tommorrow. Have a blessed night. Tweety

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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 10/25/2006 3:28 AM
Tweety,
 
Then by the same reasoning,  do you  also believe then that Jesus was the beginning of sin?

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