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From: joie  (Original Message)Sent: 9/15/2005 9:11 PM

 

Tree of Life

There with two trees in the midst of the Garden Of Eden. One was the ‘tree�?of the knowledge of good and evil. The other was the ‘tree�?of life'. Adam was told that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die. So, the big question is What Were These Two Trees?

Today, we will teach all the tree of life. The Word of God is Full of this. You could go on and on with this. And, you will see, that the other tree is just the opposite.

Since Genesis does not go into the tree of life, I will start with the account of the other tree as I have done above.

Genesis 3:5, 6 ----- 3:5 -- For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Here in this verse Satan tells Eve that God knows that if she eats of this tree her eyes will be open, she’ll be as gods, Knowing good and evil.

versus 6--- And when the woman saw that the tree was good for Food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one Wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Now, it showed that the ‘fruit�?of this tree would give them some kind of Knowledge; it would make them ‘wise�? So, it had to be something to go into the ‘Mind�? in other words, it was Words.

Proverbs 3:13 -18--

3:13- Happy is the man that findeth wisdom, and the man that getteth understanding.

3:18 - She is a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy is every one that retaineth her. ( This tells us that to find Wisdom gives understanding and length of days and that �?U>She�?is a ‘tree of life’to them to lay hold upon her. So, this shows that gaining understanding is the ‘tree of life.�?/FONT> So it has to be something for the mind.)

Proverbs 11:30---- The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life;

Proverbs 12:14-- A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth:---- ( Words)

Proverbs 13: 2, 3--- A man shall eat good by the fruit of his mouth: but the soul of the transgressors shall eat violence.

versus 3--- He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life:

Proverbs 13: 13, 14---- Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.

versus 14--- The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death

Now follow that all of this lays the foundation that �?/FONT>Words�?/U> determines this matter.

Proverbs 15:4--- A wholesome tongue is a ‘tree of life�?but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

V7---- The lips of the wise disperse knowledge:

The ‘wholesome�?tongue is one speaking the truth of the Word; the perverseness is the Word perverted; as you will see.

Psalms 119:103--- How sweet are thy ‘Words�?unto my Taste! yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth!
V. 105---- Thy ‘Word�?is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.( Now we have added another ‘meaning�?of the fruit of this tree of life= Light

119:130 -- The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. ( We see from this verse the Words entering our minds gives Light And Understanding)

Jeremiah 15:16--- Thy �?U>Words�?/FONT> were found, and I did ‘Eat them;�?and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts. ( The shows that we can ‘Eat Words�?/FONT>; so this has to be going into the ‘Mind�?/FONT>

Eze. 3: 1-- Moreover he said unto me, Son of man, ‘Eat�?that thou findest; eat this ‘Roll�? and go speak unto the house of Israel.

V2---- So I opened my �?U>Mouth�? and he caused me to eat that ‘Roll.�?/FONT>

V3--- And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I ‘Eat�?it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness. ( Again saying the Word was ‘Eaten�?and it was sweet as honey.

Revelation 10:9--- And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and �?FONT color=#ff0000 size=5>Eat�?it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

V. 10--And I took the little ‘Book�?out of the angel's hand, and ‘Ate�?it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.( Again saying someone was eating the book; roll; ‘Words�? So this ‘Eating�?has to be something that we are taken into our ‘Mind�? It is precious when we receive it; but then it brings persecution.)

John 5: 24--- Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from ‘Death�?unto ‘Life�? ( This clearly says that getting these ‘Words�?passes us from ‘Death�?to ‘Life�?/FONT>. If you Eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you will die ( Death). So this is taking into your mind perverted ‘Words�?)

Jeremiah 23:36 -- And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

V39--- Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence: ( See why he did this? For they had perverted his ‘Words�?/FONT>

John 4:10 -- Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.( Here Jesus told the woman at the well that he would give her �?U>Water�?to ‘Drink�?and she would have a thirst again; but it shall be in you a well of water springing up into everlasting life.( So to ‘Drink�?this ‘Water�?gives everlasting life. So this ‘Water�?is the ‘Tree of Life�? His ‘Words�?

John 7:38--- He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

7:39 -- (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) ( Here Jesus said, if any man thirst, let him come unto me, and Drink. He that believeth on me, as the Scripture has said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water. So, he shows that Drinking�?this ‘Water�?is receiving the Holy Ghost. If we come to him ( his words) then those words will flow out of us. So the shows that the Belly he keeps speaking of is not our bodily belly; but the spirit. All of this is spiritual. To think of it in the natural, you will you will never see this truth.)

John 6:63--- It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the ‘Words�?that I speak unto you, they are ‘Spirit,�?and they are ‘Life�? ( Quicken means to make ‘Alive�?show here is proof that the ‘Words�?are the ‘Spirit�?and they are the ‘Life�? So his ‘Words�?unchanged, (perverted) is the Tree of Life.)

John 6:27--- Labour not for the �?U>Meat�?which perisheth, but for that ‘Meat�?which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. ( Now, we have added another symbol for the tree of life= ‘Meat�? We eat this ‘Meat�?and it gives us eternal life. So again, this has to be ‘Eating�?for the ‘Mind�?/FONT>

6:33-- For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world

6:35-- And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.( Now there is another symbol for the fruit of that tree; ‘Bread.�?Again, food, but food for the mind or spirit.)

6:48-- I am that ‘Bread�?of life.

6:51-- I am the living ‘Bread�?which came down from heaven: if any man ‘Eat�?of this ‘Bread,�?he shall live for ever: and the ‘Bread�?that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

6:52 -- The Jews therefore strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

6:54 -- Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

6:55 For my flesh is ‘Meat�?indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

6:56-- He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

6:58-- This is that ‘Bread�?which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this ‘Bread�?shall live for ever.

6:63-- It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. ( Here he speaks of his human body; that it profited nothing but he said the ‘Words�?that he spoke they were spirit and they are life.)

Now, there you have the symbols for the fruit of the Tree of Life: Light, Water, Meat, Bread, Blood, Drink, Roll, Book, but it is all the ‘Word�?of God, unperverted for changed.

The Word was the Flesh; the flesh was the Word. The Word became Flesh= words brought and taught by Jesus; not his human body. This Word is what was God; This Word is what came here for us to Eat to have everlasting life.

To you people that are saying that Jesus was God, because he was flesh, you had better see this. Or you had better find out what the Jews wanted to know--- How is this man going to give us his flesh to eat? And drink his blood? How are you going to do it, you that think it refers to his natural body?

Remember, where Jeremiah ate words; Ezekiel ate a roll; John ate a book; we are to eat flesh, and drink water, blood . Can you figured this out? They were eating the fruit of the Tree--- Jesus�?Words, which are the Father’s Words. Jesus gave us the Father’s Words. His Words are life eternal.

John 12:49-- For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.( So Jesus did not speak his own thoughts; he spoke His Father’s Words; so how was he God?)

12:50 --- And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.( This proves these words were the Father’s; and that they were the fruit of the Tree of Life; for he said his commandments is like everlasting. So all that Jesus spoke, was what the Father told him to speak. So you need to remember that it is the Father speaking in Jesus; that is what makes it look like he says that he is God; it is not Jesus speaking, it is the Father speaking in him.

In Luke 6:34, 44--- we are told that a corrupt tree bears corrupt fruit. But a good tree bears good fruit; this is those who speak the word without changing it. The corrupt fruit is changed, altered word. It is death; it is the other tree.

Lk, 8:11--- Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.( Hear Jesus said the seed is the word of God. Every seed bears it’s own kind. So this is the result of speaking the truth; it brings forth life to the hearer.

Acts 13: 5---- And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: and they had also John to their minister. ( See what happened here, they preach the ‘Word.�?

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. ( He said here that we are born of the ‘Word�? the seed.

11 Corinthians 2:17--- For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.( there are many that are corrupting the word of God when they say that Jesus was God.)

John 6:66-- From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

6:67-- Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

6:68-- Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

6:69-- And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Once again, Peter is declaring that his belief is that Jesus is the Son of God. I never see anyplace were he said I believe you are God. I never found were he said you are the Second person in the Godhead. Remember, Jesus said this declaration is true foundation of the Church.

But look what Peter said is the fruit of the tree of life---- Thou ( Jesus) hast the Words Of Eternal Life. So the correct words, the correct teaching is the tree of life.

People of God this is too serious for you just to cling to something just because it has always been taught. The apostles nor Jesus taught those lies. They said Jesus is the Son Of God. He Gave Us a Father’s Words and these words are the tree of life.

People of God, would you please study this and you will see that I have not perverted or corrupted the word of God nowhere in this? If so would you please show me where?

This is layed out that it is so simple to see. That the 'flesh' we are to eat is the Word. This is the Tree of life. The Word which is God. 

By: Jo Smith


 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2008 5:21 AM
From: joie  (Original Message) Sent: 7/28/2001 3:58 PM

There were two trees in the midst of the Garden of Eden. One was the ‘tree�?of the knowledge of good and evil. The other was the ‘tree�?of life. Adam was told that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, he would die. So, the big question is WHAT WERE THESE TWO TREES?

Today, I will teach on the tree of Life. The Word of God is FULL of this. You could just go on and on with it. And, you will see, that the other tree is just the opposite. I will teach on it later.

Since Genesis does not go into the tree of life, I will start with the account of the other tree.

Gen.3:5,6----- Satan tells Eve that God knows if she eats of this tree her eyes will be opened, and ye shall be as gods, KNOWING good and evil.

v6---And when the woman saw that the tree was good for FOOD, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one WISE, she and her husband ate.

Now, it shows that the ‘fruit�?of this tree would give them some kind of KNOWLEDGE; it would make them ‘wise�? So, it had to be something to go into the MIND; in other words, it was WORDS.

Pro. 3:13-18---This tells us that to find WISDOM gives understanding and length of days.

v18---She is a ‘tree of life�?to them that lay hold upon her.

So, this shows that gaining understanding is the tree of life. So it has to be something for the mind.

Pro. 11:30---The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life...

Pro.12:14---A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth;.... (words).

Pro.13:2,3--A man shall EAT good by the fruit of his mouth: but the soul of the transgressors shall EAT violence.

v3---He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life:...

Pro. 13:13,14---Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.

v14--The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death.

Now follow that all of this lays the foundation that WORDS determine this matter.

Pro. 15:4---A wholesome tongue is a ‘tree of life�? but perverseness therein is a breach in the spirit.

v7---The lips of the wise disperse knowledge:..

The ‘wholesome�?tongue is one speaking the truth of the Word; the perverseness is the Word perverted; as you will see.

Psm. 119:103---How sweet are thy WORDS unto my TASTE! Yea, sweeter than honey to my mouth! (words sweet to the mouth?)

v105--Thy WORD is a lamp unto my feet, and a LIGHT unto my path. (now we have added another ‘meaning�?of the fruit of this tree of life = LIGHT).

v130---The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple. (so this says the Word entering our mind gives LIGHT AND UNDERSTANDING).

Jer. 15:16----Thy WORDS were found, and I did EAT them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

(this shows that one can EAT WORDS; so this has to be going into the MIND).

Eze,3: 1-3---Moreover He said unto me, Son of man, EAT that thou findest; eat this ROLL, and go speak unto the house of Israel.

v2---So I opened my MOUTH, and he caused me to EAT that ROLL.

V3--And he said unto me, Son of man, cause thy belly to eat, and fill thy bowels with this roll that I give thee. Then did I EAT it; and it was in my mouth as honey for sweetness.

Again, saying the WORD was EATEN and it was sweet as honey.

One more: Rev. 10:9---And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and EAT it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.

v10---And I took the little BOOK out of the angel’s hand, and ATE it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey; AND AS SOON AS i HAD EATEN IT, MY BELLY WAS BITTER.

Again, someone eating a book; roll; words. So this eating has to be taking something into the mind. It is precious when we receive it; but then it brings on persecution.

John 5:24--Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from DEATH unto LIFE.

This clearly says that getting these WORDS passes us from DEATH TO LIFE.

If you EAT the tree of knowledge of good and evil, you shall DIE (DEATH).

So this is taking into your mind perverted WORDS.

Jer. 23:36--....for ye have perverted the WORDS of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

v39--- Therefore I will forget you, will forsake you, and cast you out of my presence; (exactly what happened to Adam and Eve- cast out of His presence). For they had perverted his Words.

John 4: 10-14---Jesus told the woman at the well that he would give her WATER to DRINK and she would never thirst again; but it shall be in you a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

So, to DRINK this WATER gives everlasting life. So this WATER is the Tree of Life; His words.

John 7:37, 38---....Jesus said, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and DRINK. He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

v39---But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.

So, here he shows that DRINKING this Water is receiving the Holy Ghost. If we come to him and drink (his words) , then those words will flow out of us (so this shows that the BELLY he keeps speaking of is not our bodily belly; but the spirit). All of this is spiritual. To think of it in the natural, you will never see the truth.

John 6:63---It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the WORDS that I speak unto you, they are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE.

Quicken means to make alive; so here is proof that the WORDS are the Spirit and they are the LIFE. So His words, unchanged, (perverted) is the Tree of Life.

John 6: v27---Labour not for the MEAT which perisheth, but for that MEAT which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto: for him hath God the Father sealed.

Now, we have added another symbol for that tree of life = MEAT. We EAT this MEAT and it gives us eternal life. So again, this has to be eating for the mind.

v33---For the BREAD of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth LIFE unto the world.

v35--Jesus said, I am the bread of life; he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Now, there is another symbol for the fruit of that tree; BREAD. Again, food, but food for the mind or spirit.

v48--I am that BREAD of life.

v51--..if any man EAT of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

v52---The Jews strove among themselves, saying, How can this man give us his flesh to eat?

This is what you are doing. How can Jesus give us his FLESH TO EAT? That you must come to grips with this, if you desire eternal life.

v54--Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

v55---For my flesh is MEAT indeed, and my blood is DRINK indeed.

v56---He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

v58---...he that eateth of this BREAD shall live for ever.

v63---It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: (here he speaks of his human body; that it profiteth nothing)--the WORDS that I SPEAK unto you, THEY are SPIRIT, and they are LIFE.

Now, there you have the symbols for the fruit of the Tree of Life: Light, water, meat, bread, blood, drink, roll, book, but it all is the WORD of God, unperverted or changed.

The Word was the Flesh; the flesh was the Word. The Word became Flesh = words brought and taught by Jesus; not his human body. This Word is what was God; This Word is what came here for us to EAT to have everlasting life.

You people trying to say God was Jesus, because he was flesh, you had better come to see this. Or you had better find out what the Jews wanted to know---How is this man going to give us his flesh to eat? and drink his Blood? How are you going to do it, you that think it refers to his natural body?

Remember, Jeremiah ate words; Eze. ate a roll; John ate a book; we are to eat flesh, and drink water, blood, Can you figure how they did this?

They were eating the fruit of the Tree of Life --- Jesus�?Words, which are the Father’s Words. Jesus gave us the Father’s Words. His words are life eternal.

John 12:49---For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

So Jesus did not speak his own thoughts; he spoke His Father’s Words; so how was he God?

v50---And I know that his commandment is life everlasting; whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

This proves these Words were the Fathers�? and that they were the fruit of the Tree of Life; for he said His commandment is life everlasting. So all that Jesus spoke, was what the Father told him to speak. So you need to remember that it is the Father speaking in Jesus; that is what makes it look like he says at time that he is God; it is not him speaking, it is the Father speaking in him.

In Luke 6:43,44--we are told that a corrupt tree bears corrupt fruit. But a good tree bears good fruit; this is those who speak the word without changing it. The corrupt fruit is changed, altered word. It is death; it is the other tree.

Lk. 8:11--Jesus said the seed is the Word of God. (ever seed bears of it’s own kind). So this is the result of speaking the truth; it beings forth life to the hearer.

Acts 13:5---they preached the word.

1Pet. 1:23---we are born of the Word = the seed.

11Cor.2:17---the old law is death- that was the ministration of death; so this is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil for it brings forth death.

Rom.7---man was alive once without the law; but the law entered, sin revived, and we died. So that was death.

I know this is long. But it is worth taking the time to study it. Take it a bit at a time and search the Scriptures and study this if you desire life and truth; the truth is life.

Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ; the law came by Moses; the law is death. Grace is life.

John 6:66-69---Form that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

v67--Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

v68---Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

v69--And we believe and are SURE that thou art that Christ, the SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

Once again, Peter is declaring that his belief is that Jesus is the Son of God. I never find where he said I believe you are God. I never find where he said I believe you are the Second person in the Godhead. Remember, Jesus said this declaration is the true foundation of the Church.

But look at what Peter said is the fruit of the tree of life----Thou (Jesus) hast the WORDS OF ETERNAL LIFE. So the correct words, the correct teaching is the tree of life.

People, this is too serious for you to just cling to something just because it has ’always�?been taught. Because, as you can see, it has not always been taught. The apostles nor Jesus taught those lies. They said Jesus is the Son of God. He gave us the Father’s words; and these words are the tree of life.

Jo

 


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From: MSN NicknameFreeborn551Sent: 6/26/2008 5:22 AM
From: joie Sent: 7/29/2001 8:55 AM

My dear Ekklesia

Where you make your mistake at is in thinking some   man  taught me.  No, that is not true.  My teacher is the annointing spoken of in 1John,  the Holy Ghost is my teacher.  He teaches me out of the King James Scriptures and also he speaks to me in the Spirit.  But he always confirms what he says to me by the Written word.

Now, you say  that the law which  was written on stone is forever;  go back for one time, and read 11Cor.3:7---But if the ministration of DEATH,      WRITTEN AND  ENGRAVERN  IN  STONES,  WAS GLORIOUS.....WHICH GLORY WAS TO BE DONE AWAY.

Now, can you not see that it is precisly those 10 commandments written on stone that he said was the ministration of death?  That is what he said was done away with?  Can you not see that???  The law is  DEATH.  For if you are under the law, and you transgress the law, you will die.  But under grace, there is no transgression;  for where no law is, there is no transgression.  Why   would anyone want to still be under the condemnation, when one can be free???????

YOUR   teachers are what deceived you; making up this stuff about the differences in ceremonial and moral laws.  God said the commandments written on stone was done away with.  Where are the ceremonial laws said to be written on stone?  You said yourself that they were not the ones.  It seems to me that you seventh-day keepers deny the whole N.T.

And that is why;  you are still under the O.T. covenant.  That is death.  Jesus set us free from that.  Please, try to come to grace. 

No, there is no such thing as Sunday being a holy day to God .  All days are holy to God.  Paul said for us not to keep sabbaths and days and months and new moons and all that stuff any more. 

The true Christian sees every day alike.  For truly God is God and Lord over every day.  There is the real truth.

Jesus did not raise out of the grave on Sunday;  He came out of the grave in the end of the Sabbath as it began to dawn   TOWARD  the first day of the week.   A  NEW   DAY  with God was dawning;   the day of Grace.  Praise His Holy Name.    Than you my God for your amazing    GRACE.