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The New Testament way of serving God is also wrote on the stone and that stone being Jesus Christ.

And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner: Jesus Christ is that stone with the builders rejected and has become the head of the corner. Is this not the same thing that happened when Moses break the stone and cast it to the ground? Was this not showing the same thing?

And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; This is the foundation that is laid that no other can lay. THE FOUNDATION IS ALREADY LAID. This is a house that is built on a solid stone.The apostles and the prophets BUILT this foundation on Jesus Christ the chief corner stone.

To reject the teachings of the apostles is to reject that The chief corner stone, Jesus Christ.

We must not only believe this great apostolic message, but we also must obey this message that the apostles taught. If not we might as well do as Moses. We just as well cast Jesus Christ that stone to the ground if we do not believe what was taught by the apostles. We must obey what they taught. Obedience is better than sacrifice.

If you are not obeying anything that the apostles taught, again let me say you are casting that chief cornerstone (Jesus Christ) to the ground just as Moses when he came down from off the mountain.

We must not only obey this but we must defend and guard it against all distortion or altercation. The apostles original revelation as found in the New Testament can never be may void by later revelation. And believe me there are some out there that would try to draw you from that rock.They will come at you saying that you don't have to be baptized in the name of Jesus, or that you don't have to Receive the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues as the spirit gives the utterance. They will tell you anything.

Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. We must stand on the solid rock Jesus Christ and be able to destroy these false teachings. We are not on miry clay of sinking sand. Neither have we cast the stone to the ground as was done by Moses the first time around. We are on the second stone that was hewn out and was and never be cast to the ground.

We are on the rock that followed the Israelites in the wilderness. That rock was Jesus Christ. We are drinking from that spiritual rock, not the one that was cast to the ground because that was fleshly, we are drinking from the spiritual cup that will never run dry or be cast to the ground.

We are just like a wise man which built his house upon a rock:

We are on the same rock that Peter was on. I say we, the ones that say that Jesus Christ was the son of the living God. If you are not on that rock, you are on the rock that was cast to the ground. If you say that Jesus was God you are also on the wrong rock. That is the rock that was cast to the ground.

Those things that was going on with the Israelites were written for our admonition that we are not to fall for the rock that was cast to the ground, but we are to stand on the solid foundation the true Rock which is grace by Jesus Christ.

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pashapotte

Sent: 1/8/2007 7:05 PM

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Jesus is >>>still<<<<< the son of the living and true GOD, but most have never come to believe this.

Was implies that He nolonger is

In construction every good build needs a solid footing, just as walls need a good foundation, just as

the roof needs good walls to bear the load.

Every foundation needs a good footing, SOLID GROUND to hold the weight of the structure.

Too many confuse the ROCK with the cornerstone.

The cornerstone is a piece of said ROCK.

Today many build on sand, in swamp, landfill, but driving piles to help bear the load, but when the ground

does shake, such structures will also shake

In pyramid construction all the rest of the structure was aligned to the firststone set, the cornerstone, it's orientation

set up how the rest of the structure was aligned.
Take a hard look at WHO aligned "the cornerstone" and on WHOM this stone is founded.

Now Peter is not a very good building material, crumbly easily cracked, like sandstone a light weight, contrary

compared to granite which is heavy and very hard. Judas was like schist, slippery and fragmentary, and thus broke away.

James was more like granite, as Herod jr.used James to sharpen his blade just as his forefather had done with

John the Baptiser.

GOD is the ROCK from which the cornerstone-Jesus is cut, having all the attributes of His ABBA but also His mom.

Here is where so many "christians" stumble, for they either hold to the TRINI creed or they ignore utterly the

very TESTIMONY that GOD spoke regarding HIS beloved Son Jesus, holding to only a monotheistic view whereby they

have elevated to godhood Jesus, and eliminating ABBA, the Father of Jesus, yet they still accept the mother as being Mary.

Why because they also rely too much another poor stone, that contrary one of lime-stone, Paul.

Let me ask this, Is what Paul wrote in his exercises to convert equal to what say Jesus said, or for that matter what ABBA

has to say?
Which is more true for you, Mark 16,17+18 or what 1 Cor 12 purports?

Now the question of what sort of building material are you?

From:

Freeborn551

Sent: 1/9/2007 10:23 AM

Hello, pashapotte,

We do welcome you to Build on the True Foundation. That is what it is all about = building on the true foundation.

We appreciate your jumping right in and discussing the Word with us.

Now both Larry and I know that Jesus is STILL the Son of the Living God.

We also know that he was not 'part' God while on earth. He was born of Mary, by the working of the Holy Ghost, BUT that conception did not , I repeat, DID NOT place God into Mary's womb.

that child born to Mary was totally human. He was not God. He was not part God. This has been a longstanding debate here on this group.

But the Scripture solidly proves this truth.

Now no one that I know of, believes that Peter was the foundation stone. We know that the revelation he had and the fact that He Knew Jesus, and Jesus knew him, is the foundation we must all build on.

Peter's confession is the truth, for Jesus did verify what he said, and confirmed that this revelation came to Peter from God himself. So it cannot be denied.

Either the writtings of Peter, Paul and James and John are the pure word of God, or we have none. Jesus himself did not write a single book of the Word.

If a person has a problem with either Peter or Paul, it is certain that the person is having trouble believing and receiving the TRUTH. If they did not write the pure Word of God, then you may as well just burn your Bible, for it is nothing but man's thoughts. It will do you no good, if that were true. But it is not true.

It was all written by Holy men of old, as the Holy Ghost moved on them.

That is the same moving which conceived Jesus in Mary's womb, the moving of the Holy Ghost.

It conceived the Word of God into the minds or spiritual 'wombs' of those men, just as it does us today.

The difference in this working is that the Holy Ghost caused a human being to grow in Mary's natural womb. He causes the spiritual Christ to form in our hearts.

Jesus himself went through the very same process as we must. He was baptized for the remission of the sins of the whole world, which God placed on Jesus. He received the baptism of the holy Ghost as he was baptized in water.

He received the New Birth the day of his resurrection, as we must.

Then he ascended to God and married the Lord God, as his eternal glorified body, or house, or abode. He is now seated upon the throne of God, his father, and ruling and being worshipped there as our God.

Now that is the truth which the word of God confirms from Genesis through Revelation.

Anything else is the sinking sand.

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From: Isaiah

Sent: 1/9/2007 11:52 AM

We do welcome you to Build on the True Foundation.

Sure, Joie, and I know that Jesus is still the Rock. If he was yesterday, he is today, and he will be tomorrow.

Funny how anyone can zone in on one word and make it seem to be not the truth and try to discredit such a good message. I believe I read in the book of Genesis where the serpent did the same thing.

Ge 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Ge 3:4

And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye SHALL NOT surely die:

Also, I believe I saw where my brother Paul , used the same word, was.

1co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that ROCK WAS Christ.

But since you say that that Peter is not a very good building material, I guess you think the same about brother Paul, and if you hear not them, will not hear me.

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From: Isaiah

Sent: 1/9/2007 12:00 PM

If you are not building on the FOUNDATION of the apostles and the prophets, then Jesus is not the chief corner stone;

Eph 2:20

And are built upon the FOUNDATION of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

Joie, I moved this one to the Lawa & Sabbath

Hello again, pashapotte,

I see you are saying the same thing which we are saying. you seem to think that we deny that Jesus is God's Son. No, that is exactly what we teach.

We do not teach that Jesus was God. We know that God set Jesus up to be our God after his resurrection, but Jesus is still God's Son.

We show by the Word that Jesus was a full human man. He was not God and he was not part God. Some claim he was fully human and also fully God. This is not possible and it is not true.

He was not God in flesh. he was God's Son. He was begotten by God the day of his resurrection.

The Holy Ghost caused the conception in Mary's womb, but this conception brought forth a full human man, not a god.

Now about moving the message to a special board.... this was not done for the reason you thought. I had already asked Isaiah to move this message before you even joined here.

The reason is that when they are on the General board, they soon are moved way back on a back page and then no one ever sees them again. On a special board, they will stay in full view a long time, for it is seldom the special boards receive enough messages to send the way back.

All messages are in view when one looks at the all topics board. That is what I always do.

I was looking for one of my great messages a few days ago. I had failed to move it to a special board . I had recommended it to a member, but it was so far back, no one could find it. So I had to go back looking for it and move it to a special board.

I used to post all of mine to the General first, so more people would read it. But then I would forget to move them to the special boards. Then they get 'lost' way back. many wonderful messages are still 'lost' way back there.

We have thousands and thousands of messages in this group. So some are way, way back. I have deleted many, but still we have much too many.

Hope you can understand where we are and not be offended. If you do not understand a thing, please just ask.

It seems to me, that we believe the same things about who Jesus and God are. Only I see that God is a many membered kingdom, not just one as in (1) being.

pashapotte would you please provide scripture for what you are saying, that is the only thing that we go by here. we prove every thing with scripture. just as I did with showing that Jesus was that Rock.

I do not know exactly what you were insinuating about the moving of this thread but Freeborn gave you the reason that it was moved, and it was as she said. We had talked about moving it before yu even joined

Hi again pashapotte,

Perhaps this is not the right board for this message. But guess it does not matter too much which one it is on. Sometimes it is hard to know which board to place a thing on. Larry does not move them much. I had told him to use this one or another one. I just reread this entire thread, and you are right, this does not pertain to the law and sabbath.

It probably belongs on the God/Jesus board. I truly do not even know why I set that one up, since I have a trinity and a Jesus only board. But it matters not. Getting the truth is all that really matters.

Now I truly think you might be missing something important here. You need to get to the understanding and faith, that God is all powerful, and as such, He watched over His Word, since before the world was. He has not allowed men to give us a perverted version of his word. I know that in our day, men have tampered with the Word, and now there are perverted versions.

But everyone can tell that this is what happened. But to say there are errors and lies in the KJV, is to call God himself a lie. the world is filled with people doing this very thing. therefore, there would be nothing you could trust.

But the men who gave us the KJV, knew both languages, equally well, and were Godly men, whom God was with and they gave us the pure Word of God.....else we do not have one.......and if we do not have one....then no one can possibly know the Word of God,...and God could not judge anyone with the Word.........and no one can know what is true and find salvation.

It is of utmost importance to FULLY believe that we have God's Word. Else you accuse God of failing to give us His True Word. If it is not the KJV, then please, someone tell me where it is.

If it is the KJV, Then realize that Paul wrote the Word of God, not his own thoughts. Peter wrote the Word of God, not his own thoughts. You fail to see the CHANGE in these men AFTER they were filled with the Holy Ghost.

They are just as much our example as Jesus is, for Jesus gave them to the world, for the world to listen to and follow. Paul said follow me as I follow Christ.

No, they are NOT the problem or the confusion. People refusing the TRUTH they taught is the problem and the confusion. People trying to change the Word, and take away from it to try and make it fit their own false beliefs is the only reason of confusion.

The Word of God is all the KJV, and it fits perfectly all the way. Jesus was never God in flesh. He was born a human man. He then was created a new creation at his resurrection. He is the man created in the likeness of God.

He is now our God. But he is not God the Father. He is now ONE WITH THE GOD KINGDOM.

This is the truth of God.

You finally spit out your true venom. You are an enemy of God and God's people. Your insinuation is that the Word of God is totally worthless. Why is this world so filled today with so many haters of God's Word?

You are a disgrace to God and his people. I would not waste my time attempting to explain the Word of God, written by paul and other men, to an atheist such as you.

All of those questions have already been answered in our group, but I am quite sure you never take the time to read any of it. All you are here for is to try to pollute our group with your filth and hatred and ignorance of God's Holy word.

Take your POISON elsewhere. We do not need your vomit here, nor do we welcome your doctrine of devils.

The only reason I am even leaving your junk in this precious group, is to let others see what vomit you spit out on this Holy Place.

So we bid you goodby. Hope you unjoin here today.

Jo, Manager for God and His Holy BOOK, WHICH IS THE WORD.

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