~ Isaiah 9:6 Explained ~

Today is Tuesday, 7/11/05. The Scripture in Isaiah 9:6 has been so misunderstood and false teachings from this verse have misled many people into believing that Jesus is the Holy Father and all there is to God. Since this theory crosses so many other verses, this could not be the true interpretation of this verse.

So I will explain the truth which God revealed to me concerning this verse.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Now in order to understand any Scripture in its truth, you must learn to read it exactly as it is given to us. Then you must seek for the true interpretation of the verse. You must seek the answers from other verses. You cannot accept stuff anyone just made up or tried to figure out how it goes to match their doctrine. This is how almost everyone interprets any Scripture. But Scripture must agree with all other Scripture. It cannot tell us one thing over here, and something different over there. It all has to agree. If what you think a verse is saying crosses another verse, then you have it wrong.

So read the above verse. Unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given. Now almost everyone assumes this is speaking of the baby, Jesus. But this is NOT true. Was the government ever upon that babies�?shoulder? Was Jesus called the everlasting Father? No. Not one person who knew Jesus ever called him their Father. Check his entire life from birth till death. You will not find one single place where Jesus was ever in any place of ruling in government. Where did Jesus set up any government, and this government increase? It is just not listed as anything Jesus did in his lifetime. Did he not continually tell his disciples that his kingdom is not of this world? Sure he did.

Did Jesus say he came to earth to bring peace? Of course not. He said I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. So then how could he be the one it is speaking of when it said Of the increase of his peace, there shall be no end? Or of the increase of his government, there shall be no end? He died never having had any government, didn’t he? Of course he did.

Is there any scripture saying this child Mary birthed was the Mighty God? Of course not. He was not God. Jesus was a man, a human being. He was not God. He did not ever set up any government. He did not bring peace to earth. He never set upon the throne of David. He did none of these things. No one ever called him God, Prince of Peace, or everlasting Father. If you think they did, please show me that verse. It is not in the Word of God. They worshipped and served the creature more than the creator, who is blessed forever.

Was Mary’s baby called Emmanuel? NO. Did the angel tell her and Joseph to name their baby Emmanuel? No. He told them to call their child Jesus. They never at any time called Jesus Emmanuel. Was God with us in that baby? No. Was that person mortal? Of course he was. If not, then he could not have died. Did he die? Of course he did. At his death, had he ever been called the Mighty God? Of course not. If you think he was called that before his death, please show me the verse saying this. Had this man been called The Prince of Peace? Again, no. Had he ever told anyone he was the Mighty God? No. Did he ever tell anyone he was the everlasting Father? No, of course no. He continually made it clear that His Father was in Heaven and had sent him with the Word of God. He said the words I speak are NOT mine, but the Father’s which sent me. Do you believe that Jesus taught the truth? If so, then how is it that everyone thinks Jesus was the Everlasting Father? How is it everyone thinks he was the Mighty God? Did Jesus make any claims at all of being God? No, he did not!

So then, whose doctrine are you all teaching? You had better get this right and stop teaching man’s lies for doctrine.

Everyone goes to the place where Thomas called Jesus, My Lord and My God, to try and prove that Jesus was God. But when did Thomas call Jesus this? Before his death or after? Now you must find the answer to this question to ever know the real truth about Isaiah 9:6. If you try to say this verse is speaking about Mary’s Son, Jesus, then you are crossing all other Scripture. You are then saying that man killed the Mighty God. I say this is utterly impossible. It is impossible for the Mighty God to die or to have ever died. You are then saying that Mary, a woman, gave birth to the Everlasting Father. If so, then how is He everlasting? How could the Eternal God enter into a woman’s womb and be born? It is not taught in the Word of God. Not one single verse ever says that Mary birthed God. It is just not written. Then why does every church teach that she did? It is because they are all teaching the lies of Satan.

Now unless you open your heart [mind] and get willing to let the truth come to you, you will never understand this Scripture. Not one verse of Scripture says that Jesus had a dual nature as every church teaches. See, they are ALL saying something the Word of God does NOT say. Then if God did not say it, it has to be the word of Satan. Whose word do you believe?

Not one verse of Scripture teaches that Jesus was God on the inside and man on the outside. Not one verse says that Jesus was both God and man. Not one verse says that Jesus�?spirit was God and his flesh was man. Not one verse says that Jesus was fully God AND fully man. Not one verse says that Jesus performed miracles because he was God. Not one verse says that the reason Jesus never sinned was because he was God and could not be tempted. Where does the Word say any of these false teachings which EVERY single church teaches. Both the Trinitarians and Jesus-only people teach all of the above, yet not one verse backs up these lies. Not one verse calls Jesus a God-man as the churches do. So again, I ask, where did they get all these lies?

As Jesus was about to die, he called to His Father and said, Into thy [your] hands I commend MY Spirit. So this alone proves that Jesus had an individual, personal spirit [as we all do] which was NOT THE SPIRIT OF GOD.

It also proves that Jesus was not his own Father. How could he call out to someone other than himself and say I am commending my spirit into YOUR hands, if he himself had been the Father? This would be just foolish speech. No sensible, honest-hearted person could believe that the above words pertain to only Jesus.

So then, who is the Emmanuel the Word calls God with us? For the answer you must read Roman 1:4.

Ro 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

Ro 1:2 (Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,) Ro 1:3 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh;

Ro 1:4 And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Now notice that Paul spoke of God which promised by his prophets concerning HIS SON. So even this proves that God is not the Son of God. Jesus was the Son of God. Now it said that this son was made of the seed of David according to the flesh, but he was declared to be the Son of God by the resurrection from the dead.

So this makes it clear that the day Jesus was declared to be the Son of God with power according to the spirit of holiness, was the day he was raised from the dead. Does any other Scripture say this same thing? Sure it does.

Ac 13:22 And when he had removed him, he raised up unto them David to be their king; to whom also he gave testimony, and said, I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will. Ac 13:23 Of this man's seed hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a Saviour, Jesus:

Now the above verse says that Jesus was made of the seed of David. This means Jesus was fully human. He was not part God. He was made of a man’s seed. David was called his father. How can you deny this? Ac 13:29 And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the tree, and laid him in a sepulchre. Ac 13:30 But God raised him from the dead:

Now that says that Jesus was taken down from the tree and buried. Does that sound like God to you? If God was dead, how then did God raise him from the dead? God raised Jesus from the dead.

Ac 13:32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers, Ac 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

Ac 13:34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Ac 13:35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

Now Acts 13:33 makes it clear that the day God beget his Son was the day He raised him from the dead. You can’t make anything else out of this and be truthful with the Word. Does any other verse bear this out? Sure. Re 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

Now that verse declares that the day God begot his Son was the day he raised him from the DEAD. [three witnesses of this]. Are there any more? Yes.

Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Now that is four Scriptural witnesses saying that the day God beget his Son was the day of his resurrection. So then, can’t you see that it was not the baby born to Mary? It was not that baby born in a stable. That was Jesus, Mary’s Son. BUT the Emmanuel was that resurrected, first begotten from the dead Son of God. This was the Manchild of Jesus. This was the new life, the Son in the likeness and image of the Eternal God. THIS is the one Thomas called, My Lord and My God! This is the one Isaiah 9:6 is speaking of. This is the Son born to us, the Son upon whose shoulders the government of this world is laid. This is the one called our everlasting Father. This is the one to whom God gave all the same power in heaven and earth that God himself has. This is the one to whom God said, now let all the angels of God worship him. This is the son whom God set up on the throne of God and said, rule until you make your enemies your footstool. This is the Son God said shall be called the Everlasting Father, the Mighty God, the Prince of Peace. This is the one to whom every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that He is our Lord to the glory of his Holy Father. This is the Emmanuel. This Son was born from the dead the day God raised him from the dead. This is the Son born to us in Isaiah 9:6, not the baby Mary birthed.

Do you, can you see the difference? If not, pray for God to open your eyes and give you understanding. The Manchild is this resurrected Christ. This is the Son of God which Jesus had developing inside himself all the days of his earthly life, as he submitted to God and obeyed him in all things. The Word of God was inside this man, this virgin to God, Jesus, and forming Christ inside him. This Christ was born the day God raised him from the dead. Thou are my Son, this day have I begotten you. What day? Not the day Mary gave birth to a baby. No, it was the day God raised Jesus from the dead. That day, the Son of Jesus, his perfected life, coming forth in the new birth, was born. It was the day of his resurrection from the dead, the first born from the dead. If you do not like this teaching, argue with God. He is the one who said this.

Heb 5:7 Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered; Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

Now this declares that Jesus was suffering and being made perfect as he learned obedience. ‘Being made perfect�?is speaking of his resurrection, when his perfection was completed. This is the day he gave birth to his Manchild, which is Emmanuel. It was the son of the virgin, Jesus, not Mary.

This Holy Son of God will never return to corruption. He will never see death again. He ever liveth to make intercession to God for us. If he had not been corruptible before his death, he could not have died, nor would it say he would not return to corruption. That corruptible man was NOT GOD. God was in him by his spirit the very same way God is in us by his Spirit. God was still in heaven. God never left Heaven. If you think He did, then please explain this: John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

Now if God had been inside Jesus as is taught in the church, and that is all there is to the existence of the Father, how is it then that Jesus said-- I GO TO MY FATHER? ....and ye see me no more, showing that it was when Jesus ascended away up to heaven that he is speaking of that I go to my Father. This solidly proves that the spirit of God being in Jesus did not mean that the Father did not exist outside Jesus somewhere else. If so, then how could Jesus truthfully say I go TO my Father? He would not have to GO TO his Father, if his Father had existence only inside Jesus. Again I say that Jesus-only teaching would make Jesus�?words very foolish.

Jesus called us the children God gave to him. Jesus is our Father. Jesus is our God. So this fulfills the Scripture in Isaiah 9:6 that this Son would be called the everlasting Father and the mighty God. But it is referring to the Son of God begotten from the dead. It is the glorified, immortal Son of God born at the resurrection. We will come forth as Sons of God at our resurrection. This will be our new birth, just as it was the new birth of Jesus Christ. Be not ye children in understanding. Grow up! Study the Word to shew yourselves approved to God. Believe the truth and reject lies, else you will lose your souls.