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I breed Min Pins in Missouri. I only have one intact female and I don't breed every cycle. I skip a heat. If you are interested please drop me a line. Mine are Black and Tan and are all USDA Health Certified before they go to new homes. I also will not sell to brokers, mills, breeders who keep dogs outside the home or breeders that have more than 2 intact females. My puppies are home raised around people and children. They are usually potty trained (or getting there) as soon as they can go outside. I do the tails and dew claws but I do not do the ears. If you would like pictures of my past litters or current dogs please write and let me know. [email protected]. |
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Not that I am interested in a puppy...
But why would you hold it against a "breeder" (that's a loaded word) if
they had 2 intact females? I have 2 spayed females, 6 intact females (1 is
going to be spayed, 1 has never been bred & I have not decided if I want to
breed her yet, she is just over a year, & 1 is my next show puppy, who is
not quite 6 months yet) & 2 intact males, both have been shown, 1 is pointed
& I am still working on him to earn more. They
all live in the house & are well cared for. And why not to
"breeders" who keep dogs outside of the home? People send their dogs out
to handlers & some co-own....
And JUST curious, how old is your girl & how long do you plan on
breeding her?
JMHO & forgive me, but this struck me wrong, maybe I got up on the
wrong side of the bed this morning!
Vikki
Breeder
in Missouri.
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I breed Min Pins in Missouri. I only have one intact
female and I don't breed every cycle. I skip a heat.
If you are interested please drop me a line. Mine are
Black and Tan and are all USDA Health Certified before they go
to new homes. I also will not sell to brokers, mills, breeders
who keep dogs outside the home or breeders that have more than 2
intact females. My puppies are home raised around people
and children. They are usually potty trained (or getting
there) as soon as they can go outside. I do the tails and
dew claws but I do not do the ears.
If you would like pictures of my past litters or current
dogs please write and let me know. [email protected]. | |
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Not that I am interested in a puppy...
But why would you hold it against a "breeder" (that's a loaded word) if they had 2 intact females?
Okay, now that someone else started in, I would like to know the same. I for one, don't sell to breeders UNLESS I know a lot about them, and my theory is if they only have 2 dogs in their breeding program, there isn't a breeding program. LOL Don't take this the wrong way, just wondering the same thing Vikki is.
JMHO & forgive me, but this struck me wrong, maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning!
Well it hit me wrong too but I have had a really REALLY bad day. So I wasn't going to say anything.
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I'm strictly talking about Puppy Mills. I get bad feedback no matter what I say about anything. I throughly got my butt chewed by someone for calling them a "Backyard Breeder". I wasn't being insulting about it, I was just clarifying that they aren't a puppy mill. The majority of people that I run into run puppy mills but won't come out and tell you "We have over 200 dogs in the barn. They are never handled. Live in a cage until they are sold, etc." I changed my selling ways when I went to pick up two females that were ruined at a puppy mill. This wasn't a large mill, I'd say a medium sized one. They kept the dogs in the barn, cages stacked 5 to 6 high. Nothing in between to catch waste so the dogs on the bottom cages were covered. She had two females that she was going to turn over because she overbred them and they weren't any good to her anymore. I got about 45 minutes away from my house to get them when I found out that she took them into the back yard and shot them in the head instead of letting me have them (it wasn't worth her time and trouble). This is not the first time this has happened to me. Some just throw them in a burlap bag with a rock.........then in the river or lake. Some do keep them inside but they live in filth and the dogs are infected, dead ones laying in the yard, etc. I have nothing against people breeding any kind of animal. I just decided to control who got mine and with these rules I can pretty much weed out the abusers (along with some home inspecting). I don't hold what this woman did against others. I'm just a responsible person and am currently working with Senator Dougherty to STOP ALL PUPPY MILLS! I've done extensive investigative work into this and will continue to do so. If my rules on who I sell to make me out as a b*tch or snob than so be it. I've been called worse. I don't do this for myself and don't care what people think.........I do it for them. Hope I don't offend, I don't mean to. I'm just very protective of all my kids........even the ones that go to new homes.  If I sell to breeders I fully expect to see the other animals on the property and how they live. I also ask for Vet references. |
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Oh, Mouse, sorry. I didn't answer your question. My breeding female is 4. I don't intend to breed her but maybe once more. She was sold to me by another breeder (I bought her to save her). She was raised and kept in a cage all her life. She wasn't potty trained, didn't know how to find the food and water bowls, had no idea what a toy was, her teeth were rotted out of her head, she had no claws (they were ground down to the skin), her tail (there is no tail) was cut off at her backbone and she was absolutely terrified of everyone (because she had NO human interaction EVER). After I gave her a home, got her teeth (I call it her grill) fixed, fattened her up, got her USDA Health Certified, and spent hours and hours loving her.........she's turned out to be one of the best dogs I have ever owned. She is still pretty scared (she will ONLY go to me and when someone comes in the room she searches the house frantically for me). I'm only intending to breed her a few times. So, if my rules offend people.....they don't have to buy from me. Go somewhere else. I'll keep each and every one of those pups before I let something happen to them. (One guy showed up to buy one, said he wanted to replace the 6 week old puppy that he ran over. It wasn't smart enough to get out of his way. Needless to say, he is Min Pinless.) I'm anal, I know. It's just that doing animal rescue I've seen a lot of bad things, I mean A LOT. I REFUSE to let that happen to my kids. They are my life, without them.............I am and have.........NOTHING. |
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One quick thing as we aren't supposed to be having a discussion here. THIS is why I do what I do. Connecticut case shines light on puppy mills Mistreated puppies found in wrecked truckOctober 11, 1997
Web posted at: 11:06 p.m. EDT (0306 GMT) From Correspondent Cynthia Tornquist BRIDGEPORT, Connecticut (CNN) -- The recent discovery of nearly 100 puppies, crammed into a truck without food or water, is being described by Connecticut officials as one of the worst animal abuse cases they've ever seen. The puppies -- discovered after the truck was wrecked -- were brought to the Bridgeport Animal Shelter Tuesday. They will be housed in kennels throughout the area, Mayor Joseph Ganim said, while the truck driver, Larry Jenkins of Tunas, Missouri, faces 96 counts of cruelty to animals. Authorities say the puppies are owned by a Missouri dog broker who was trying to sell them to pet shops along the East Coast. The case has brought renewed attention to how dog breeders treat the animals they offer for sale. 'They just churn them out' "A lot of these puppy mills are not part of the pet industry, but we're tarnished by it," said Marshall Meyers of the Pet Industry Joint Advisory Council. "So what we really need to do is have good strong state kennel licensing laws -- kennel standards -- that are enforced." "I don't think (the puppies are) given the care they really need," says Frank Oliveri, manager of a Petco store. "A lot of inbreeding might take place, and they just churn them out like noodles, like spaghetti."  Many commercial breeders are required to be licensed by the U.S. Department of Agriculture under the Animal Welfare Act. But with only 73 inspectors across the United States, the USDA cannot keep up with the workload. Some states also license and regulate commercial kennels. However, pet industry officials say consumers, by asking a few questions before they buy, can throw up an additional line of defense against the abuses of so-called puppy mills. "They should ask to see health records. They should look at the animal. Does they animal have a runny nose? Does the animal have clear eyes? See what the condition of the animal is," Meyers said. Animal rights advocates suggest adopting puppies from animal shelters, rather than buying them. "If more people would adopt animals out of the shelters, obviously the puppy mills would feel it," says Staci Syrotiak of one such group, called New Leash on Life. NOTE: He's from Missouri. Now you know why Missouri breeders who care about their pets are the way they are! |
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I can't say I blame you in protecting your babies. If you don't protect them first, who will? It is no different then protecting your human baby. You don't let your child go outside without knowing where they are and who they are with, so why should your fur-baby be different? I understand why you feel the way you do and so do a lot of other responsible breeders. It is just that they base their policies and practices out of where they live and what they see and observe, just like you do yours. You are right and so are the other responsible ones out there too. Just keep on working together and you will get the differences worked out and may even be the ones to band together over the Internet and help us who work with other outside organizations shut down the puppy mills together. After all power comes in numbers and there is more to life than dollars and cents. Right? Iadoremyminpins |
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