Hey 'Spinner', no you were not wrong, I myself read (some where) that all MSN sites will be switched automatically, if the Managers fail to do so. Just give me sometime and I will find where I read that, and post it on here. This is just awful that this is such a mess, to me any way and I'm sure alot of other MSN group sites. Remember the saying...'if it's not broke...don't fix it!'