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From: MSN NicknameClint710  (Original Message)Sent: 10/28/2007 2:37 AM

1. Who are the Mormons?

The official name of the Mormon Church today is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Joseph Smith founded it at the age of 24, in the state of New York on April 6, 1830. It was originally named the Church of Christ, and then in 1834 the name was changed to the Church of the Latter Day Saints. In 1838 it received its current name (Doctrine and Covenants, Sec.115:4).

Joseph Smith proclaimed that God Himself had designated the LDS Church as "the only true and living church upon the face of the whole earth" (Doc. & Cov. Sec. 1:30).

The LDS Church claims to have the only true priesthood that is required to act in the name of God. A Prophet/President and his two counselors govern the church. Under them are twelve apostles and a group of men called the Seventies. These are the highest offices in their church.

They have four books of scriptures: the Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price.

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From: MSN NicknameAalie-Sent: 10/28/2007 3:04 AM
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From: MSN NicknameYearning2LearnSent: 10/30/2007 4:38 PM

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We appreciate the messages you share with us on the Cult Information Board!  You always provide excellent information that we need to have! 

Thanks so much Clint for your faithfulness to this group!

God bless you!

♥Carol



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From: shakleegirlSent: 4/28/2008 2:48 PM
What do the Mormons really mean when they talk about " The Savior" or when they talk about Jesus?  I don't think they view Jesus in the same way that I do, but they talk a good talk that sounds good on the outside.  Any ideas what they really believe about Jesus?

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From: MSN NicknameAalie-Sent: 4/28/2008 8:32 PM
Shakleegirl..I will get Clint to answer your question he is the Cult expert in our group.
I will notify him and get him here to answer you as soon as possible.
 
Love, Aalie

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From: MSN NicknameClint710Sent: 4/28/2008 11:04 PM

Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ   

Remember that the Christ of Mormonism is a"literal son" of a Father and Mother God, and is a spirit brother of Lucifer. He became "a god" through eternal progression, and was married and had physical offspring. His atonement provides resurrection for all men and opens the door so men can "work out" their individual salvation. For more information about Christ, see our chapter on God.

    Furthermore, LDS do not believe that faith justifies anyone. Apostle Talmage said, "The sectarian dogma of justification by faith alone has exercised an influence for evil" (A. of F., p. 480). He also calls it a "pernicious doctrine" (Ibid., pp. 107, 480). But, Paul said, "We conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law" (Rom. 3:28). He also declared, "Therefore being justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" (Rom. 5:1). Paul warned, "But though we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed" (Gal. 1:8-9).

The Father of Jesus Christ

 Since Brigham Young was teaching that Adam was the father of our spirits, it was very easy to teach that Adam was also the father of Jesus. In a discourse delivered April 9, 1852, Brigham Young declared:

When the Virgin Mary conceived the child Jesus, the Father had begotten him in his own likeness. He was not begotten by the Holy Ghost. And who is the Father? He is the first of the human family ... I could tell you much more about this; but were I to tell you the whole truth, blasphemy would be nothing to it, in the estimation of the superstitious and over-righteous of mankind. However, I have told you the truth as far as I have gone.... Jesus, our elder brother, was begotten in the flesh by the same character that was in the garden of Eden, and who is our Father in Heaven. Now, let all who may hear these doctrines, pause before they make light of them, or treat them with indifference, for they will prove their salvation or damnation (Journal of Discourses, vol. 1, pp.50-51).

In the Women of Mormondom we read: "Adam is our Father and God. He is the God of the earth. So says Brigham Young... . He is the father of our elder brother, Jesus Christ—the father of him who shall also come as Messiah to reign. He is the father of the spirits as well as the tabernacles of the sons and daughters of man. Adam!" (Women of Mormondom, p.179).

Heber C. Kimball, first counselor to Brigham Young, claimed that "there is but one God that pertains to this people, and he is the God that pertains to this earth—the first man. That first man sent his own Son to redeem the world ..." (Journal of Discourses, vol. 4, p.1).

In 1856 the Mormons published a hymnal which contained a hymn entitled, "We Believe In Our God." This hymn plainly taught that Adam was the father of Christ:

We believe in our God the great Prince of His race,
The Archangel Michael, the Ancient of Days,
Our own Father Adam, earth's Lord, as is plain,
Who'll counsel and fight for his children again.

We believe in His Son, Jesus Christ, who, in love
To his brethren and sisters, came down from above
To die to redeem them from death, and to teach
To mortals and spirits the Gospel we preach.

(Sacred Hymns and Spiritual Songs for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Liverpool, 1856, p.375, as quoted in "The Position of Adam in Latter-day Saint Scripture and Theology," p.16.)

    George Q. Cannon, a member of the First Presidency, seemed to believe that Adam was the father of Christ. His son recorded the following in his journal:

...Father [George Q. Cannon]... asked me what I understood concerning Mary conceiving the Savior; and as I found no answer, he asked what was to prevent Father Adam from visiting and overshadowing the mother of Jesus. "Then," said I, "He must have been a resurrected Being." "Yes," said he, "and

though Christ is said to have been the first fruits of them that slept, yet the Savior said he did nothing but what He had seen His Father do, for He had power to lay down His life and take it up again. Adam, though made of dust, was made, as Pres. Young said, of the dust of another planet than this." I was very much instructed by the conversation and this day's services ("Daily Journal of Abraham H. Cannon," March 10, 1888, vol.. 10, pp.178-79; original at Brigham Young University).

    Under the date of June 23, 1889, Abraham Cannon recorded that George Q. Cannon taught that "Jesus Christ is Jehovah" and "Adam is His Father and our God" (vol. 11, p.39).

    The information given above certainly shows that Brigham Young did teach that Jesus was the son of Adam, and it was not just "Enemies of the Church, or stupid people" who believed that he taught this doctrine. The most devastating evidence, however, comes from the "Journal of L. John Nuttall," who was "a special secretary to President Young." On Wednesday, February 7, 1877, L. John Nuttall recorded in his journal that Brigham Young taught that Jesus was the son of Adam:

Wed 7... Prest Young was filled with the spirit of God & revelation & said, ... This is life eternal that they might know thee the only true God and Jesus Christ whom thou hast sent... Adam was an immortal being when he came on this earth ... and had begotten all the spirits that was to come to this earth and Eve our common Mother who is the mother of all living bore those spirits in the celestial world....

Father Adam's oldest son (Jesus the Savior) who is the heir of the family is Father Adams first begotten in the spirit World, who according to the flesh is the only begotten as it is written. (In his divinity he having gone back into the spirit world, and come in the spirit to Mary and she conceived ...(" Journal of L. John Nuttall," vol. 1, pp.18-21, taken from a typed copy at Brigham Young University).

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From: MSN Nickname†FàíthJoYnHÌm�?/nobr>Sent: 4/28/2008 11:37 PM
  

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From: MSN NicknameAalie-Sent: 4/28/2008 11:52 PM
From Clint:
 
 
 
Who Are The Mormons? Cults Exposed ***

 

If shakleegirl  needs more information I will be glad to post it for her

Bless You Sister Aalie

Big Hug
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