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From: MSN NicknameEerie7  (Original Message)Sent: 10/13/2006 9:49 PM
 
Interesting read here...
 
Enjoy...    ~eerie


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From: MSN NicknameEerie7Sent: 2/15/2007 3:59 PM
Whispered-Softly...
 
I read your awesome message yesterday but because I was so moved, I decided to meditate on it before responding...  and now I see you have deleted it! I truly felt your post was awesome...  your post presentation was fantastic - and the border was one of the most beautiful I have ever seen!
 
You artfully wove your own heartfelt beliefs into a remarkable summary using what the author said - sprinkling the tapestry with nuggets of wisdom taken from your own insightful experiences and just reading it made my heart sing in appreciation of your writing talents!  You also adhered to our motto: Each one teach one!  I learned much from your discourse and am sorry to see it is gone...  
 
 You have become a valued member of our community... 
 
That said, I do hope you have saved a copy and will re-post it for us...  I would hate for others not to read and appreciate it as much as I did... 
Namaste...    ~eerie

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Whispered Softly I didn't get 2 read the message yet and I really wanted to.
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From: MSN NicknameWhispered-SoftlySent: 2/16/2007 7:47 AM
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From: MSN NicknameWhispered-SoftlySent: 2/16/2007 1:16 PM
I am so sorry to mess up the thread, perhaps you can make the thread again and just paste the 2 messages: Again I am sorry
 
Oh Eerie your words and Whirl Wind are so medicinal and so sweet, I thought the response I gave was just too long. Then I felt embarrassed.
 

 

 

 

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Truly an extensive message: Taking over 2 hours to read : Reincarnation: key to Christianity and the response is long - due to the requirement Each One Teach One 
 
The message stated: something like: almost all people were born into a loveless situation in which as children, our full-potential was never developed and who we really are, was totally  suppressed. It use to be, for the vast majority of people in the world, that children were born unwanted and subsequently abused. This occurred because marriages were often loveless.
 
Marriages were based on master and slave relationships, then the children suffered abuse.  Subsequently, families serve as the foundation for all of societies, if the marriage is loveless, the children will grow up without love and the whole world will be loveless and suffer, even nature and all the life forms will suffer  as well. In a master/slave marriage, true self becomes suppressed, and only obedience and servitude is tolerated( usually of the women and children). Every person then is born into a loveless world, and lovelessness is the modern version of being born into sin.
 
To deal with our wounded hearts from having been born into a loveless world, the writer states something like, with a greater understanding of our true identity that links to God,  we can easily learn true forgiveness towards those who wounded our hearts when we understand that those who hurt us, acted out of a false identity that was forced upon them beginning from their birth. Those who are loveless are not their true self.
 
Indeed, all people were made in God's image and likeness, but few of us could achieve either expression of God's image and likeness when the living God was denied to us by the false teachings of the world, and when we were forced to live in a loveless world.
 
The Message begins with a  group of true Christ's followers  who were slaughtered, and with their death went the true knowledge of Jesus. They were slaughtered by those who were also Christians but the invaders  did not know of the true teachings of Jesus. True Christ Followers know and experience Jesus, the Holy Spirit as the Loving presence of God, and such people  are different in all ways compared to all the other people world wide who only believe in God.  When you know and experience God, all of life is transformed. You experience life with Joy rather than with hardships and sufferings.
 
Today, Millions of Christians have left the faith. Millions more have no knowledge of how God is present or active in their present lives, to the extremity, that God appears so invisible and so far away from our reality as to appear non-existant.
 
With the return of Jesus, the same Jesus who never left our world, ( like the trailer of Ghost Rider which said, the only one who can exist in 2 realms at the same time such as in heaven and on earth is here and can save our world)  
 
With the return of Jesus the world will become one Life Force which will know God, and reflect God's image and Likeness, which is both spiritual and Loving.
This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,�?because they will all know me (Heb 8:10-11 NIV).  

 Love is the highest form we can evolve to. Love requires much maturity, self-discipline, and deep understandings which are  provided for us by the Holy Spirit. Love is the reason the universe exists and why we exist. We were made to nurture one another and to nurture the world. To love and be loved is not only God's will, but our very own purpose and importance in being alive.
 
We were designed to be the best we can be and to love being our true self.  But to really love, requires a relationship with God who is the source of all of life and the very source or life force of our being. When we experience God's love for us, then we truly can love others and the world we live in. Indeed, that is a spiritual law, God loves us first, and that is why we love God (who is all there is. ) or we  first must experience God's love to really love God as all there is.  All for One and One for all.
 
God is a Family God, embracing both genders  and the true meaning of God is all there is, who is knowable, accessible and loveable to each person,  to even each life form. God is like the great ocean of life in which we are a part of like molecules of water. We can see ourselves as one lonely drop of water or as part of the ocean.
 
In Christian teachings: There are 3 layers to God:  God the Father is the Creator of the Universe,  then Jesus who is God incarnate, or born into Human form, to reveal He can relate to us, and that He does not look down upon humankind, He said, now you know me and you know I love you -so you can relate to me, the third is what makes a God a true God, which is God  is Omnipresent or is with all people in the form of the Holy Spirit, like a Guardian Angel. Thus there is one God who is all there is but who is knowable, accessible and loveable. He is Jesus.
 
Christ means creator joined as one with creation, through creation's awareness of God's presence and guidance. Creator is like the hand, and creation is like the glove.  Jesus is God the Father and Creator of the universe and humankind, for there is only one God, who is all there is, but who desires to be experienced. That is the original teachings of the true followers of Jesus, in that they experienced Jesus.  It is the reason He Resurrected, to fulfil His Promise to always be with Us.
 
God asked us in the Old Testament: not to attribute onto Him, a gender, for one gender without the other, is meaningless or non-existant.

*And when Constantine and his (Christian) Church killed the genuine people of The Way in the fourth century -- altered the written word of the scriptures to make them support an institutionalized shadow church -- and converted the empire to the very Pagan religion of the emperor -- the world was plunged into a state of darkness from which it has yet to emerge from. Yet  goodness came out of it. For example Europe itself transformed from warring hunting and gathering tribes into thriving civilizations.

A world in darkness means it is a loveless world that does not know nor experience God as the core of their very being. They believe they are on their own to survive, so there is wars, crimes, unjustice, scarcity, heirarchies, false identities, false gender attributions, so on and so forth. It became a world of domination by bullies with the requirement of obedience and servitude towards them,  and people were forced to comply in order to minimize pain and  to survive, however meagerly. Being oppressed  lead to  the lack of self-awareness, emotional suppression  which in turn blocked out from our awareness our direct link to God.

Those in the past who were condemned as religious heretics, were not the heretics -- but rather, the genuine visionaries ( that is those condemned as heretics taught others how to experienced God for themselves thus true Christianity is not a religion of oppression that it came to be, rather with the knowledge of God guiding us in all things, it is a way of living with love in our world.)

This world and the power that controls it is referred in the scriptures as being enveloped in darkness, because its  reality is incomplete -- resulting in the fact that it greatly limits the mind from  perceiving man’s higher state of being.    From the perspective of what the Apostle Paul called the god of this world, the teachings of The Way was a threat to the world.   Paul therefore knew that in time, the Spiritual Church had to be replaced by a shadow church that would appear to be in accordance with New Covenant teachings, but was not.

One of the most important concepts of the New Covenant is that Jesus  taught, there is only One Teacher -- One Church -- and One Source from which all that exists springs forth and emerges.  Whereas, A false teacher is one who attempts to instruct the people -- rather than demonstrate how to learn directly from the True Teacher. 

A false church is one that promotes ritual observance and doctrine that is based upon a redemptive philosophy -- rather than reveal  a portal that leads people along the journey of healing that is necessary in order to walk in The Way that opens to them the Presence of the Lord. 

It is true our modern day world is an atheist-scientific culture, in which there are no true values and mores. We teach our children to live in accordance with a secular/Atheistic culture in which sexual devaluation and exploitation continues, and  monetary pursuits are encouraged, but awareness of our true spiritual idenity is denied.

The writer is saying that the dilemma that confronts each one of us in our search for the meaning of life: That man exists simultaneously across the spectrum of a multiple of dimensions that unbeknown to each person, is they possess an innate connection to the Absolute Source of all Truth, and by virtue of their royal heritage they have the capacity to learn the Mysteries of God directly from this Source -- and that these advanced abilities of mind that permit certain individuals to perceive reality beyond the limitations of this world are developed over the course of many such lives that our pre-existent soul is presently living -- is simply beyond the ability of the carnal people whose thinking is in accordance with the culture of this world to even envision.

The person we are at present is the result of not only our experiences in this life, but also the lives we have lived prior to being born into this world

and last: important statement the writer believes: God can only be realized by men and women who have become “One Flesh�?/I>

 Jesus spoke in the New Testament of reincarnation, when he was visited by 2 spiritual beings, and when Peter wanted to make a tent for the men. Jesus was asked if one of the men was Elijah, but Jesus said, John the Baptist doesn't even know that he is Elijah.

Jesus had come into our world many times in different places. Where ever there is truth, like in the 5000 year old Yoga, which means nonverbally a way to be one with God. All truth, all inventions, all social improvements come from Jesus, Even beautiful music and stories or movies. He has worked non-stop generating massive social improvements.

Today: most people have reincarnated but they are not aware of their past lives because they are given a clean slate. In most cases it is not necessary to know of one's past life unless it serves this present life in some important way.

For example: I am aware of my past life, but if I try to convince anyone who I was in a past life, I would loose my energy trying to defend what took me decades to accept. Rather, I am aware of my past life, in order to understand my awareness and relationship with my Inner Guidance who is also my androgyne better half.  I was taught, my experience is not for me to convince others rather it is for me to be convinced. Good enough. I needed to know of my past in order to understand my relationship with one of my Guardian Angels. 

The writer believes: God can only be realized by people who have become “One Flesh�?nbsp; I will tell you my heart, but not in order to coerce you to accept nor to even make you believe for neither is necessary.

It all begins with God, who is all there is and who embraces both genders. In our world when man identified himself as a warrior against life, he attributed on to God the he gender. Because the warrior against life killed women and children, in order to do so, required emotional suppression, brain washing techniques, such as a man had to convince himself that women and children were inferior to him, and such a man believed he was superior because he could kill. Since History is wars. All of human social life is a reflection of that belief. It is in all religions, in all nations, in science, in all social attitudes and beliefs. Man in turn, who had taken the world through violence, attributed onto God the He Gender.

 God said, We made humankind in our image and in our likeness, God is both Father and Mother, thus Jesus was married and is married to Mary Magdalene( same as Mary of Bethany), and this knowledge was lost, hidden for many reasons as well as  because people could not understand that the true meaning of God is all there is. Man through his diverse religions forced people to believe in his concept of God, and often man tried to make God in man's own false image. This was forced upon people and those who deviated or questioned man's beliefs were punished, killed, or  institionalized as insane.

Thus the true knowledge of how God is present in our personal lives became lost knowledge, and was called  heretical so that people would avoid investigating it, thereby preventing people from experiencing God for themselves, for  as soon as People experience God, then those in power will be rendered powerless.

Even so, today: Saying Jesus was/is married divides Christians further and endangers them, by the Muslims who are against any female attributions on to God, for Islam does not permit female Angels, when we are all spiritual beings, that is  we are really angels. Females are important to all of nature but in humankind, because of man's false identity women were severally devalued and subsequently true knowledge of God was denied. It is a huge shock to most believers of God, that God is not a he, not a she but both.

I am saying this not to make you believe something you were never taught, rather to help you understand why the writer said: God can only be realized by men and women who have become “One Flesh�?The writer believes it is through a good marriage that we become aware of God, but  as people become aware of God's presence in their lives, they can not help but be in love with God. God is all there is, and each person is one with God. God is the source of each person's existence. To love and to Be loved is the purpose of all there is.

 The Bridal Chamber in the ancient gnostic writings  is the union of each person with the Holy Spirit or Loving Presence of God. For each of us is an androgyne like God, but unlike God each person is not aware of their higher other half.   

The ancient belief in separation from God meant the loss of awareness that God is all there is, meant that man believed he was separate from God, thus from all of life, then from each other as in race, nationality, and religion, then from the two genders and then  conscious separated from the subconscious.

But the Bridal Chamber is the restoration of the world back to heaven, as well as the revelation of Jesus and Mary as God the Father/Mother ( this will only be evident or revealed with the second return of Jesus, the Jesus who never left us) The loss of this information of their marriage means the tampering of Jesus' true teachings and the subsequent explaination as to why there is suffering in the world or what has delayed the return of Jesus. By reducing Mary Magdalene to a prostitute, it empowers the Roman church to be celibate, being deemed a prostitute devalued her writings, her presence in France etc,  and all women as a consequence suffered greatly, but Jesus was egalitarian and He is the Model for all men to follow.

When Jesus only taught Love, the church's history did not reflect  Love. Instead the church was oppressive, corrupt, and down right violent.

Yet  God is a Family God embracing both genders, and it is true, when a person becomes aware of God, the person becomes healed of their wounded heart and loves God as all there is, and when this person marries one who also is aware of God's loving presence, than their children are nurtured properly and all of society benefits with no crimes, no drug dependency, no illness etc.

For God is with all people, not just married people. The return to paradise or return to awareness of God is between each individual and God. The one flesh is the braiding of each person with the Holy Spirit, for there remains only God.

The braiding of human and divine into one flesh is already taking place, and when other events do occur, you will not be as shocked as others will be.

 

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This stainglass window was made in Scotland around 1904, long before the Nag Hammaddi documents were discovered around 1945 in Egypt. Mary fled Eygpt with her 2 children, a boy and then a girl, Mary was pregnant at the time of Jesus' Crucification with their second child was/is Sara. In France, Mariham the happy, was said to be the first to convert the pagans to Christianity. Later when the Roman Church heard that Mary had taught she was married to Jesus, the church sent an army to Southern France and slaughtered 20,000 women, children and men for being Gnostic or knowing the true teachings of the spiritual living Jesus, and then the Church began its Inquistion, lasting hundreds of years in which people including children were tortured and burnt at the stake for having been acclaimed as witches. Rather than the  church revealing that Jesus is spiritually present in our world with the capacity to lead the churches,  by making Jesus appear invisible and far away from our reality, then diverse authorities could mislead us, exploit us,  and deprive us of heaven.

The church spoke in place of Jesus' own voice  when Jesus is the only one who is all and is in all people at the same time, and capable of guiding each person back to oneness with God. Despite thousands of years of this suppression: God's will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Bless YOU with Christ's Love and Light

A Bee Bg

 

 

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From: MSN NicknameEerie7Sent: 2/16/2007 6:42 PM
Thank you for reposting this Whispered-Softly!  I know Whirly wanted to read it and I am so happy that the rest of the community has the opportunity to see it too!
We have many members who read/learn here but hardly post - yet I feel they benefit from those of us who are more vocal and out loud with our Truths!
Your message is a shining example of what our motto means - Each one teach one!
Thank you again...
Namaste...    ~eerie

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From: MSN NicknamewhirlwindZ1Sent: 2/17/2007 5:59 AM
Whispered-Softly, you touch upon so many features with eloquent personally-thought-out
research. This is unto a Da Vinci code with out the melodrama. An internal, illuminated drama
which affects us all. You approach the edges of the truth of the True drama of Christ. The non-religious,
human, sensual man who shaped himself into an Avatar with All That Is's Guidance for purposes
of planetary alchemy which we barely comprehend and which the satanic "Church" occults
so that we must form our mini "Essenes" in open-secret that we might rediscover IT's e s s e n c e.
Thank you and Thank you again, and Again for posting and reposting this W-S. Shy Sage~~
Methinkz you are an intellectual and spiritual Titan!  

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Stained glass borders with running electric lights.........Wow!!

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From: MSN NicknameWhispered-SoftlySent: 2/19/2007 12:55 PM

The body dies and falls to disintegration, but the soul continues on its journey to perfection and fulfillment. With each new incarnation the soul yearns to be free from the boundaries and invisible shackles it has brought with it from previous incarnations in the form of karma

Unwittingly we obey the call of the oughts and shoulds  until eventually we break free and run towards the truth which only our own soul can know and fully understand face

 


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From: MSN NicknameEerie7Sent: 2/19/2007 7:35 PM
Insightful share Whispered-Softly! 
Thank you for your wise words hon...
Namaste...    ~eerie

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