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| | From:  §ĞRÅČË902§ (Original Message) | Sent: 11/25/2005 10:22 PM |
Hi folks, I'm diabetic and 3 months ago we found out our 4 yr old little girl is too. SHOCK of my life needless to say. She's doing ok, but to get her to eat breakfast is a nightmare. She goes to pre-school 2 half days a week now but next year she goes to school full time. Does anyone have any ideas of what I can come up with that she might be interested in eating (she needs 30-45g of carbs for breakfast). She has never been an eater in the morning, she has to wake up first (unlike her mom who can eat sound asleep), but with school, what on earth am I going to do? I'm near the end of my rope because every morning its an argument. I've tried practically everything the dietitian has suggested, and some ideas work, but just for that day. Any ideas would be of great help. Thanks Gracie |
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Welcome Gracie, I really don't have any ideas on how to entice your little one to eat breakfast.I was never a breakfast eater either as a child or young adult ..of course now I have no problem eating breakfast any any other meal lol. Have you tried putting sliced bananas on her cereal or any other fruit ? Once again welcome. MaryB |
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Gracie, Does she like milkshakes? I make one with a banana, skim milk, a little vanilla, a couple of packs of equal (or sugar if I need more carbs) in the blender - then drop in a coupe of ice cubes and blend well. It makes an easy and fun to drink that might appeal to your daughter...my 16-year-old adds peanut butter to hers and ALL my kids drink these. They are best when the banana is on the ripe side, because you need less sweetener, but the banana shake is easy and very good. We always use skim milk and they are thick and yummy. Good luck with your picky eater! Ann (pottervb) |
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Do you count carbs for her meal bolus/injection? That may make things easier and more flexble for you both. When you count carbs you take an amount of short acting insulin that is appropriate for number of carbs eaten. for example, i take 1 unit of novolog for every 10 grams of carbohydrate I eat (everyone's insulin to carb ration is different so she may need 1 to 15 etc, her doctor can help you figure that out). This works well for me because like your daughter I am not a big breakfast eater, one day i may eat 20grams of carbs and take 2units of novlog with that meal and the next day i may eat 50 grams of carbs and take 5units of novolog. I usually take my insulin after I've eaten so that I take the right amount for what i ate. Carbohydrate counting take more effort in figureing out how much insulin to take but it is worth it for me for the flexiblity. I know i am an adult and your daughter is only 4 but I do have a friend with a 5yr old on an insulin pump that uses carbohydrate counting with her daughter and it has worked well, her daughter ahs been on a pump since age 2.5. :) I hope you can figure out a method that works for you both. keep us posted. ;)
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Gracie I think that Parrot has the right ticket...ask your daughter's doctor to work with you on making a more flexible schedule for your daughter. For example, she could take a base shot of long acting insulin, and take humalog (short acting) prior to meals based on the carbs in that meal. That way, if she chooses not to eat, then no additional shot of humalog, and then no worry of bottoming out. OR BETTER YET...just tell her that her behavior will lead to having to take addional shots, if she doesn't eat on schedule. Just the THREAT of having to get shots when I was a kid would have made me behave! Welcome to the group, Gracie! Hope things work out for you and your daughter. Please keep us posted, OK? sheryl |
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Not sure if this is feasible in your case but could you perhaps have her help you make her own breakfast with some gentle guidance from you. Have her stir the eggs for scrambled eggs....put toast in the toaster...butter the toast.....mix up the oatmeal....etc. Four year olds like to do things and this might be a way to get her to eat. Make it a fun thing for you and her to do together. If it works that is great...if it doesn't you have not lost anything. Time spent with a child is never lost time. |
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Thank you all for your suggestions. I'd like to involve her in making her breakfast, but she's a bear when she wakes up and I'm not sure its safe to have her around electrical appliances that early in the morning. As for adjusting her insulin, she has 9 units of long acting novelin N and 1 unit of short acting A for breakfast then another unit (of A) at suppertime. It seems like its the volume that she can't handle,(at breakfast, but the other meals she's ok) that's why I was hoping something with alot of good carbs would be good for her. She likes the smoothie/milk shake but it makes alot and it takes her 45 minutes just to drink a cup of it. If anyone has good recipe ideas for breakfast, please let me know. Gracie |
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Gracie, first i would like to welcome you to the board, glad to have you. second, i have a child as well, he to did not like to eat in the morning, until i gave he a cereal bar, they have fruit loops, coco puffs, and so many others, to kids it looks like a candy bar, also you can see if she will eat other kinds, like ganola bars, (sorry can't spell today) my son eats them alot, i would really try them. and good luck, I hope it all works out for you and your family. BLUEJAY |
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| | | From: bkiah | Sent: 11/28/2005 4:26 AM |
There's a great website named childrenwithdiabetes.com. You'll have to register but they have a chat room and message board and other information that can be very helpful for you.. One of the chat rooms is for parents with children with Diabetes. |
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| | | From: sarahQ | Sent: 11/28/2005 8:31 AM |
45 carbs for breakfast for a 4 year old seems a lot. I can just about manage that myself and I am an adult. If it were me I think I would go back and tak to your daughters pediatrition. Bananas have a high carb content and are lot more healthy than cereal bars. Will your daughter eat a slice of toast? But I do think you need to go back to the ped and tell him/her that your daughter is not an eater in the mornings and what can he/she suggest. |
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Welcome to the club that no one should be a member of. Having raised two kids on the go, cereal bars saved my life. I like the special K with strawberries. The good thing about cereal bars is that they contain less than a bowl of cereal, milk and fruit. The important thing is to get her used to eating something-anything for breakfast then gradually decrease the things that aren't necessarily good for her and substitue the things that are. But just like adults, even if the peditrician can come up with something, she may not comply. There is an ensure type product for kids called "pedisure". You might try that. voni |
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UPDATE...well 6 months later, she has improved on her eating habits. I spoke with the hospital, and dietitians and docs and we reduced the amount of food she had to eat. Originally it was 45-60 g of carbs for breakfast, and I had it reduced to 30-40g. The docs wanted to increase her insulin because she was gaining too much weight and I convinced they to reduce the carbs instead. So, since Nov '05 she's grown another inch, and has lost 0.2 kg and they are happy with this check up. I've found that if I can get her to eat something small in size like a muffin or certain cereal bars she does better. She loves eggs and bacon, so if I can get her to eat her carbs first, then she may get her egg & slice or 2 of bacon. She's a good eater at the other meals, now my biggest concern is how many times she's been sick this winter- the stomach flu 3 times, ear infections twice and various colds....it's going to be a long winter. Can't wait for spring! Gracie |
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I have a little boy who is now almost six and has been diabetic since before he was one. He takes lantus every evening and then we give him 1 unit of novolog per every 10 grams of carbs he eats. I give him his shots after he finishes his meal because kids are so unpredictable on the amount they will eat. one week he'll be on a grow and eat a lot and the next he won't want as much so it works for me better to not to give the shots before the meal because then i risk low blood sugars. I also don't think that forcing him to eat has ever been beneficiary. I just offer a couple of healthy choices, he chooses and eats what he wants. the only thing is he then gets his one 15g. snack between meals and if he gets really hungry before lunch or dinner, I need to have plenty of carb free snacks on hand. Sarah Sue |
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What insulin regime is your daughter on? She should not have to be on a set carb amount if she is on the newer insulin regimes. If she is on the older insulins like NPH it can be a real struggle to get a young child to eat to match the set insulin amount and peak times. LOL Children that age are grazers, they eat throughout the day. There are several good websites dealing with Children and Diabetes such as Children With Diabetes and the American Diabetes Association. You may want to post there as well. They are both great resources for dealing with young children. |
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