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From: MSN Nicknamekiwimum49er  (Original Message)Sent: 8/2/2008 11:46 PM
My eldest son is 31. He's been a "troubled" young man but is forever optimistic, and cheerful or at least on the outside. He seemed to turn his life around recently by being accepted to a NZ flying academy. He's had a passion for flying for a long time, and this was a realisation of that dream.

He went to Thailand on holiday for the first time about 2 yrs ago, and met a Thai girl there whom he's been chatting to every night either on Facebook or Skype. He has massive debts from ventures here in Aust, and now has a student loan in NZ.

He went to Thailand the 3rd time in May for 6 weeks and took this girl with him paying for her. His rationale was she in fact saved him money by speaking the language, therefore able to seek out bargains. In travel, food and hotels. So he didn't mind having her as his personal guide.

The reason I'm so angry is, that he is trying to get his brothers to write letters saying he's in a relationship with this girl so that she can join him in NZ. I found this letter by mistake last night when one of the boys left his hotmail account open and I thought it was mine. That is when I found the letter from the eldest to his brothers.

Under normal circumstances I may be more understanding, but he has nothing to offer, apart from massive debts. She doesn't currently work, her English is according to Matt, very good. He is a student living on a small student grant, so how does he propose to keep her? Or does he think once with him she will suddenly be the main bread winner.

It was something she said, and Matt relayed it to me. "How will your mother feel seeing you with an Asian girl?"

At the end of the day he is technically an adult, and the brothers are also. I have to trust that they know what is involved with the so called letter


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From: MSN NicknameabsolutelystumpedSent: 8/3/2008 1:52 AM
Ah, me.... what can you do, other than stew, mom?
Maybe she will turn out to be a lovely girl and a good bread winner.
I hope he follow through on his Flying dream job.
That should earn him a very respectable salary and free flying if he joins an airline.
 

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 8/3/2008 6:32 AM
All we can do is love our kids and be there for them at that age. He will do what he wants to do anyway.
 
 
I don't understand what you mean by him trying to get his brothers to write letters so the girl can come to NZ. Can't she just come?
 
 
 
Does the girl being Asian bother you? I believe its a normal reponse from the girl hoping she will be accepted.
"How will your mother feel seeing you with an Asian girl?"

 

Hugs! Angelbear



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From: MSN Nicknamekiwimum49erSent: 8/3/2008 8:55 AM
The girl can't go to NZ without a visa. That means he'd have to sponsor her.

I guess the reason I was so angry was the underhand way he did things. Asking his brothers to write a letter saying that he and the girl are in a relationship. I guess there are all sorts of relationships, but apart from the 5 weeks they were holidaying, that's all the time they've been together. He can't afford to sponsor anyone, as he's on a student allowance, and is supposed to be concentrating on this course in aviation.

If he was more responsible Wanda, I wouldn't have a problem with the fact she is Asian or any other nationality for that matter.

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From: minSent: 8/3/2008 1:52 PM
Hi Helen
Sometimes we wish we could just give them a quick kick up the backside to wake them up.
I have 2 grown sons oldest being 38 and sometimes throughout his life i have wanted to do that, he is now married but he wasted his life as he had opportunities he just threw away.And then marriage ended his dreams.
I hope like hell that your son goes on to the flying academy if that is his passion he dose not want to have any distractions it is full on learning to fly (my hb pilots cesnas)
it took yrs to save to do that but that was his passion.
And i normally dont put my opinions on here for fear of upsetting persons but i feel i can say it to you mate.
If he sponsors the girl/lady she is not going to be able to work on a visa i think and also with sponsoring someone dont they have to have money to support themselves while they are in NZ and also your son has to have a place and money to be able to keep her.
Here is hoping she dosent get sponsorship and your son can get on with the flying academy and looking to what he wants in the future
Maybe now you know you can explain to his brothers the hard facts
Good Luck Helen

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From: MSN Nicknamekiwimum49erSent: 8/3/2008 10:33 PM
Thanks Min.
I feel that Ben my second son will have set Matt straight, as his wife had to go through all the visa stuff. You are right about the sponsor ship. Matt has Buckleys. He has no money, nor does the girl.
I agree he should be concentrating on his studies. He's getting good marks at the academy and will soon qualify for the private pilots licence. They then go onto the commercial licence theory not getting into the plane till end of October.

I'm sure that's also why I was getting so hot under the collar. Like your son he needs a good shaking lol or grrrr
Hugs from Helen

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From: MSN NicknameAngelbear1231Sent: 8/5/2008 7:59 AM
I didn't realize what sponsoring meant, thanks for explaining it. It seems he would be creating more financial hardship if he does this. Have you talked o him? Good luck. Hugs! Angelbear

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From: MSN Nicknamekiwimum49erSent: 8/5/2008 12:13 PM
Wanda, the big problem is that I wasn't supposed to see the letter Matt wrote to his brothers.

I can only hope that my second son Ben who is more level headed may be able to talk some sense into the older one. Ben's wife Jamie (the girl from the US) had all sorts of hassles with the paperwork for her permanent residents visa for here, and she came on a spousal visa.

It may all be a storm in a teacup. I sure hope so.

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From: MSN NicknameDoe0807Sent: 8/6/2008 5:05 AM
I pray it is a "Storm in a Teacup" as you put it.  But I would also be praying that your son has not just become a victim of a scam.  They did a show awhile back, involving Thai females, on 20/20 or Dateline.  (US investigative-news magazine shows)  It told how the females are hooking up with foreign men to get them from one country into another for illegal purposes and if they find a "patsie" they take advantage of it.  Then once they have relocated to the desired country, then they are able to connect their illegal trafficing scams and less likely to be caught.  Maybe some of the other DIVAs remember the show I'm referring to. 
 
Just pray for him and if you get the gutt feeling "something smells rotten in Denmark" then I would pray even harder and hope that you can talk to him before she is able to make permanent residence.  
 
Now that I've said all the above, it too, could be a very innocent friendship/relationship and he truly wants to help her. 
 
I thought about not saying anything about the investigative report and just keeping my "fingers clamped", but then again, maybe I should be informing you.  Only you can make the choice.
 
In my prayers that your son will realize that a 5 wk presence in one's life doesn't always mean you know them well enough for whatever reasons she wants to come to Aust or NZ. 

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