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From: MSN Nicknameoniero  in response to Message 13Sent: 9/19/2007 8:58 PM
Hey again Paul,
 
had much luck yet with your album? I remember you mentioning some health worries too, hope that hasn't been causing too many problems.
 
Looks like we're both stuck despairing over our own social circle's eh. Maybe it's Saturn in my 7th that I seem to be perpetually in this predicament. People laugh when I joke I hate my friends but I secretly mean it (well, most of them). Hopefully it will pass for you at least when Pluto finally moves out of your 7th and away from your Sun.
 
I suppose it is a very Piscean tactic but I usually prefer to fade away from people rather than burn my bridges irrevocably so that if I bump into them it's all still civil. I'm guessing Gemini doesn't care too much for conflict either, perhaps that would be a good way for you too. Just stand back a bit from the associations you know aren't particularly good for you until they're just a background feature, then it won't hurt so much to let go completely if you still want to or to re-evaluate the relationships, sometimes a rest does wonders. I remember you saying that you feel more akin to a cancer moon type so I guess you can be tenacious sometimes too (plus your progressed sun and moon in Cancer and in the Taurean house, has the moon moved out now?).
 
As for making new friends (and I write this having decided to turn hermit for the next year) you mentioned having a very wide range of interests; I found a meet-up site on the internet that I wonder if you might like. It's not like a dating site or anything, just a way to participate in stuff locally. At least that way you can do things you enjoy but not have to do them on your own and maybe even meet some like-minded people. Admittedly it does sound a bit like a desperately spinsterish thing to do but ho hum. I joined a vegetarian group - once a month we try out places to scoff ourselves silly which is something I just wouldn't be able to do otherwise. There's all sorts of interests however, not just nerdy stuff.
Not sure if posting the website address would count as advertising so if you're interested I can e-mail it to you.
 
Ahhh - why have I not looked here before....was just wondering about your Mars, which I am sure we've talked about being in that T-square before but never about it being in Virgo. No wonder you're shy about being the one to take the initiative with others. Going back to what we said about people coming to us rather than us to them...when I need to I am capable of putting aside all shyness, taking the lead and steeling myself against the knocks - actually people seem more than happy to let me be the one in charge, which isn't something I enjoy, but considering the rest of my chart I think the boldness can only be lent by my Mars, which although it has a T-square is in a strong placement. It's quite different in your case. 
 
Venus is how you draw people to you but Mars is how you approach others. Your 1st house Venus and Sun in Gemini probably make you quite a honey trap plus the moon in 3rd house show your ability to talk to anyone so you've got the "luring" part just fine. However Mars is a little out of sorts in Earth signs, the hesitation and slowness to act you mention would surely be textbook traits. Virgo of course being more neurotic than the other signs would give you that "distance and reservation" you mention. The conjunction to Saturn adds to the shyness and maybe that's the real crux of your T-square, your Mars placement affecting your confidence and your relationships. You're fairly lacking in cardinal placements too so being the initiator of things isn't easy for you.
So I guess the question is where else can you find the assertiveness that Mars is lacking? Maybe if you can use the 5th house placement rather than the sign placement you can draw from that? That creative energy and that "opus magnus" maybe? Perhaps even fine tuning the "lure"...the 1st and 7th house planets are both positively linked to Pluto, also in the 5th, perhaps there's something in that, though don't ask me how that works in practice, you'll have to work it out and tell us!


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     re: personal fear and insecurity   MSN NicknameCaringLeomoon  9/20/2007 1:26 AM
     re: personal fear and insecurity   MSN NicknameFlashgordGem  9/21/2007 1:43 PM