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UK/IRE News P&S : Russ2's logic
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From: MSN NicknameUltimaSetanta  (Original Message)Sent: 4/6/2004 4:17 PM
Here is an IM I got from Russ in Irish Abroad:
 
At least READ what I post...FFS, I SAID, "the starving Irish Catholics and other tenant farmers." Who the feck do you think are the, "other tenant farmers?"
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I don't see any reason to specifically mention Irish Catholics.  I'm sure I'd have equally pointed out the same if another poster had specifically mentioned "starving Irish Protestants".


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From: MSN NicknameUltimaSetantaSent: 4/6/2004 7:14 PM
More logic from Russ2:
 
Subject:
Re: An Gorta Mor
 
 
Message:
i suppose one never has to mention those "Taigs" but seeing as how it was a majority of them living at the time who either died or emmigrated, I think they deserve a mention whenever you're discussing An Gorta Mor.

 

My reply:

Taig can be regarded as quite offensive Russ.  I've no idea why you should use that name in personal corresponance with me.

As for Catholics being the majority of those who died... well that would be quite logical, considering that Ireland's population at that time was something in the region of 80% Roman Catholic.  The rest were, to reflect your own parlance, "Huns."

I don't think they deserve any less of a mention.


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From: MSN Nickname«¤™Iяĩsђ__Šþąя×™¤�?/nobr>Sent: 4/9/2004 1:18 AM
What a fucking moron Russ2 is. Let him refer to his great RA men as "Taigs" I would laff to see his beating. LOL

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From: MSN NicknameJahk7Sent: 5/16/2004 4:35 PM
I do not know what the word in question means. Maybe Russ2 does not compehend it to be very insulting either. I entered it into an online dictionary and it did not have the word. In general, although I may not always agree with him, I have found Russ2's postings to be basically reasoned.

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From: MSN NicknameUltimaSetantaSent: 5/17/2004 2:27 AM
The word Taig is a word used to describe Roman Catholic Irish people.  Normally it is used in a derisive manner.  Increasingly though, it is being used in an ironic, tongue-in-cheek manner and can actually be quite affectionate when used in the right context - but only when people from Northern Ireland use it with each other.  That's not saying that I could walk into a pub and expect friendly embraces from all around if I were to announce I was going to buy all the Taigs a drink!  Well ... having said that - if a drink is involved, maybe I would get embraces! lol
 
Anyway .. the word comes from the commonly found Irish surname, which is still found today in surnames like McTeague etc.  Not half as common now as it once was.
 
The word Hun I'm not sure about... I suspect though that its obviously something to do with Attila the Hun and his tribe who went and conquered all before them.
 
The word Fenian, I think, comes from one of the Gaelic tribes who invaded Ireland around 400AD called Feni.

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From: MSN NicknameJahk7Sent: 5/17/2004 3:28 PM
Thank you. A bit like the "N" word in America. Use it only if you are.

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From: TrollopSent: 11/25/2005 9:48 PM
Huns are what Germans were called, at least during the war. "The Hun" as a group I think.
Fenians - I used to know where that came from and I forgot. But I'm related to a lot of Fenians. Wouldn't it come from the followers of Finn MacCool -- the Fianna? I think that's it.

I don't know Russ2 much, and I sort of confuse him with Rebel. That shows you how much I know about Irish politics.

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From: TrollopSent: 11/25/2005 9:52 PM
I looked it (Taig) up in the Double Tongued Word Wrester

http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/taig/

And there are Taig tools, specifically Taig milling machines and lathes.
http://www.cartertools.com/

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From: MSN NicknameUltimaSetantaSent: 1/13/2006 1:12 PM
Trollop - I said where the words came from in my reply.  The word Taig I was unsure of for many, many years.. apart from its (mis)use in Northern Ireland.
 
Here is what I'd said:
 
Anyway .. the word comes from the commonly found Irish surname, which is still found today in surnames like McTeague etc.  Not half as common now as it once was.
 
"Fenians - I used to know where that came from and I forgot. But I'm related to a lot of Fenians. Wouldn't it come from the followers of Finn MacCool -- the Fianna? I think that's it."
 
The word Fenian, comes from the Gaels who invaded Ireland around 400AD.  They called themselves Feni, which I think means "land-owning freemen".
 
There was an anti-British Fenian movement which originated in the east of the USA towards the end of the 1800s.  It would probably be nigh on impossible to tell if you were descended from the Feni or not... although you may well be descended from a member of one of the Fenian groups in the USA back at that time.

"I don't know Russ2 much, and I sort of confuse him with Rebel. That shows you how much I know about Irish politics."

The one being almost as extreme as the other when it comes to Irish politics, religion and Irish history, I think it would be easy to confuse the two!  Sometimes I found myself confusing Lourenco and Russ2.

Russ2 has apparently stopped porting on IA.


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From: TrollopSent: 2/8/2006 4:25 AM
I forgot all about this thread. No I wouldn't be related to any Fenians in the US, as all my ancestors came to Canada from Scotland/Ireland directly.
I was using Fenians in the slang sense - Catholics. At least that's what I think it is. And yes it turns out to be so. But who cares.

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