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From: Josephine  (Original Message)Sent: 1/16/2004 10:05 AM
Curiosity has yet to kill me, so for the sake of it -
 
Does anyone here know what the approproate method for shooting coke is?  If it's the same as with H, I'm all clear on it; just wanting to check to make sure I don't off myself.  My friend K introduced me to coke a few days ago, but snorting did literally nothing for me, so I figure I'll just try this one my way, as well.
 
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From: MSN NicknamenobargainSent: 1/16/2004 3:05 PM
Josephine, You can shoot coke the exact same way as H, but be very careful.  It is not the same and I have known alot of people to OD doing coke this way.  Your gonna do what your gonna do just be very careful.  We don't want to add you to the remembrance board.  Vinny

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From: luckySent: 1/16/2004 7:57 PM
shooting coke is too nice and the problem you are likely to have is not being able to stop until the whole bag is gone- also you will probably not bother to use a new needle each time so will fuck up your veins(i dont have any on my arms,hands ,feel.legs) mainly from binging on c even tho i have been a junkie for 20 y the 1-2 years i did c really messed me up .Best not to try- wash it up and smoke it if you want the rush!

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From: JosephineSent: 1/16/2004 8:58 PM
As far as the needle use goes - I'm proably going to be alright.  I'm a med tech out in the "real world" - all I do is injections, and I have literaaly hundreds of needled flaoting around my house.  If I go threw all of those, then I know I have a problem.
 
Thanks for the info -
 
Josie

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From: MSN Nicknamewallie1worldSent: 1/17/2004 7:22 AM
Hello & welcome Josephine,I read your inquiry about shooting coke.Personally prefer doing speedballs. I was pretty exact most of the time in not missing the vein. I have no idea why, but for some reason I would miss with straight coke- inviting the abcess. I tried kicking H by shooting coke because of the old story I had heard from whoever, that doing coke was a good method of kicking. Lucky nailed it when saying you will spend however much money you have ( or don't have for that matter ) chasing the original rush. If you happen to be ADHD, chances are better than not-that coke will mellow you out, as in Ritalin.The only thing I got from coke was preferring speedballs and hanging around with speedfreaks who drove me nuts and  bent the hell out of my mini-blinds ( not to mention catching frequent glimpses of the shadow people moving about, just outside my perifial vision).If you try it, recommend you set aside a descent sized wake up, so you don't have to lay there feeling exhausted with your brain spinning and chewing your tongue simutaniously.Incidentally, coke and crank account for the majority of stroke & heart attack in the 25 & under age bracket. May the Wind always be at your back , the Sun always upon your face with the winds of destiny carrying  you aloft, to dance with the Stars.  God Bless us all,  Wallie
 
 
 
 

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From: MarcoSent: 1/17/2004 6:27 PM
Hey Josephine-  I don't wanna try and tell you how to live your life; that's completely up to you.  But switching from dope to shootin coke isn't a wise move.  I've been a junkie for a long time (I'm 50 years old) and I've probably seen more people lose it after switching from dope to coke than anything else.  You got a good job it sounds like; I had a great career until I lost it to this disease.  I was one of those people who thought it would never get me.  And I was able to pull it off for a long time, but of course in the end it did get me, I lost my job, career, and almost my family.  It's hard for me to see someone who seems to have a lot going for them keep on in the life.  Do you ever think about just getting out now, when you can.  Cuz guaranteed, the day is gonna come when you can't beat it, it's gonna beat you.  And I hate to see that happen to anyone- especially someone who seems to have so much going for them.  But as I said, it's your life.  Be careful- even if you're a med tech and give injections all day, using coke IV is a whole different game.  As a few people have said, you're gonna LOVE it when you do it, and then waste lots of time money and effort to recapture those first few times.  And it'll never happen.
 
Sorry if this offends you.
 
Marco

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From: MSN NicknameMissingThunderkiss0004Sent: 1/17/2004 11:27 PM
When I was using I would go through a box of 100 needles like it was nothing. If you shoot cocaine it's not uncommon to go through a box of 100 in two days. When I shot coke I would go through at least 40 needles in one session. Crazy. But really it doesn't matter how many needles you use, addiction is addiction. Some people use needles over and over because they are too lazy to go down to the needle exchange or they don't have a needle exchange program in their area. Reusing is one of the worst things you can do to yourself because used needles are hell on your veins.
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From: JosephineSent: 1/18/2004 1:49 AM
Marco -
 
I have thought once about getting out, and it was just recently.  My unofficial postion is the "loaner" med tech for my local hospital association, and I got sent recently into the detox unit.  Scared the fucken hell out of me. 
 
The coke was nice - but I think I know where my loyalties lie.  I mean, I'm not going to say that it wasn't an awesome experience - just not really myy taste, you know?  I thought I'd gotten cotton or something - I swear a freight train passed through my head.
 
So, yeah.  I don't know about getting out.  I'm almost two years in the game, and at this point I really don't feel like I have a reason to not use.  I figure I'll get there when I get there, and if not, so be it.
 
Thanks for the insight, though - I think you have a lot to offer people.
 
 

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From: MSN NicknameMissingThunderkiss0004Sent: 1/18/2004 12:10 PM
Shooting cocaine is bad news. I burned out most of arm veins from shooting cocaine. I've spent so much money on that stuff, probably more than I've spent on heroin and I always had a huge heroin habit when strung out. I was a cocaine addict for years before I started doing heroin. I remember when I first started shooting cocaine I loved it. Whenever I would kick heroin would replace the dope with shooting cocaine. I shot cocaine for a year straight while on methadone  a couple years back. If you shoot cocaine make sure you have a wake up to mellow you out. Or if you are on methadone or currently strung out on dope you will definately need a wake up or you will be sick. I got to a point where shooting cocaine was no longer fun. I felt like I was having a heart attack every time I did a shot. I tried not doing as much but I still felt the same way. I had a small stroke when I was 19 from doing speed. I'm lucky I don't have any damage from it. My boyfriend gets the same way when shooting cocaine. He either feels like he's having a heart attack or it's not strong enough and he's just fiending out for hours. Cocaine is so much harder on the body than heroin. It causes a lot more damage. My doctor has told me that speed and cocaine are far more damaging and way more dangerous. He and I agreed that heroin wouldn't be so bad for the body if there wasn't all the cut in it. I don't  do cocaine anymore, I have't done it in months. Actually I have only done it like a handful of time over the last two and a half years. I started out smoking crack at a real young age. Then I quit that and started doing lines of coke. Then I moved on to shooting the stuff. I'm so happy I don't do it anymore and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. I wouldn't turn anyone out on the stuff either. It's a waste of time and money. And it's dangerous on top of it all.
Tk

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Hello & welcome Josephine,I read your inquiry about shooting coke.Personally prefer doing speedballs. I was pretty exact most of the time in not missing the vein. I have no idea why, but for some reason I would miss with straight coke- inviting the abcess. I tried kicking H by shooting coke because of the old story I had heard from whoever, that doing coke was a good method of kicking. Lucky nailed it when saying you will spend however much money you have ( or don't have for that matter ) chasing the original rush. If you happen to be ADHD, chances are better than not-that coke will mellow you out, as in Ritalin.The only thing I got from coke was preferring speedballs and hanging around with speedfreaks who drove me nuts and  bent the hell out of my mini-blinds ( not to mention catching frequent glimpses of the shadow people moving about, just outside my perifial vision).If you try it, recommend you set aside a descent sized wake up, so you don't have to lay there feeling exhausted with your brain spinning and chewing your tongue simutaniously.Incidentally, coke and crank account for the majority of stroke & heart attack in the 25 & under age bracket. May the Wind always be at your back , the Sun always upon your face with the winds of destiny carrying  you aloft, to dance with the Stars.  God Bless us all,  Wallie
 
 
 
 

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From: MarcoSent: 1/19/2004 6:34 PM
Hey Josephine-  I can relate to how you feel, I really can.  And I know I can't convince you of anything.  But.... having said that, two years into the game isn't much and it would be relatively easy to get out now.  Not easy, but relatively easy.  And I know that for so many of us there doesn't seem to be a reason not to use, until we end up paying some kind of consequences, and then it's often too late.  Also, if you don't mind me saying, you don't sound real happy these days.  I wonder if the dope is doing for you what it used to do, or if by now you're just doing it to be doing it and going for that 20-second rush that you maybe get.  Have you tried looking at it, instead of "I don't have a reason not to use" as I don't have any reason to keep using.  I just sense that there's not really much pleasure in it for you any more.  And if that's the case, what's the point.
 
I know it's not as easy as that, and you're absolutely right, when you get there, you'll get there and it ain't gonna happen until you're ready.  I really hope that time comes sooner rather than later.
 
Marco

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From: JosephineSent: 1/21/2004 1:55 AM
Marco -
 
 I think I misrepresented there - I'm almost two years into my current round in the game.  I wasn't ready to get clean when I last did, which is why I'm back where I started.  I only got clen the first time because I was turning eighteen and knew that the legal consequences were gonna get a lot worse than they already were.  At that point in time, I was excited about being clean and this and that and the other, but once the novelty wore off - I think someone else has refered to it here, that time when you have the natural high of being clean - I realized that sobriety had little to offer me.  I just started attending NA again, though, so maybe that will help.

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 4/22/2004 4:32 AM
I don't think you're suppose to cook coke, but not sure.  Be careful.

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From: sarahcSent: 4/24/2004 5:05 AM
Hi there
 
I have just read your post, about shooting coke and totally agree, that it's real bad news. When I started doing freebase (at the time very naive - thinking i could do that rather than H), I was introduced to it, by shooting. It nearly killed me. I went down hill so fast, it is terrifying even thinking about that period. I lost everything and my health got bad, was going crazy and weight was anorexic. On the way to rehab, I still had some, so kept stopping to do more, then a few pills (diazapam) etc... its all a blur, but I was rushed to hospital, where I had a heart attack.
 
I am still battling this shit. I started smoking it a few years ago and my cravings for that, fuck everything up. This is why I cannot stick to my methadone script! This is why when I was doing really well on Buprenorphine and feeling good about myself, I fucked it up, cos the cravings for it. I tried to just smoke and not do H to come down, but I found it impossible.
 
Have you got any ideas/tips/techniques for fighting the cravings?
 
P.S. Well done on stopping!

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