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From: flapjack  (Original Message)Sent: 4/17/2007 5:22 AM
Hey all, flapj here. Forgive me for my abscence.  My eyes are open. I see the faces everyday on the street and I feel fear and confusion, including my own, just seeping out of everybody, everything, everywhere. What is it that seems to be fucking it all up? What and why is there some force killing all that is worth living for, and even life itself. Being a consumer locked into a brainwashed society, a citizen of a country which is going down fast from the inside, from the top down. The idea that modern(homo erectus) man is approximately eighty thousand years old is bullshit. We are a very young species on this planet, geologically speaking, but the full story of how we got here is not taught. The idea that man is inherently violent by nature is another belief system I disagree with. The education system and institutions are completely infiltrated by intelligence. Since birth we have all been subjeted to extremely refined sociological and psychological programming. Isolationinism of the individual, the slow destruction of community, and the knowledge of general communal and spiritual concepts, the systematic destruction of the healthy family unit. The ever-increasing dumbing down of the media and what ever increasing slabs of video-mind drivel and the same horrible news stories they run for three days or so until the next non-issue distraction comes all pre- packaged up for consumption.  Don Imus. Fuck that asshole. Heain't the only thing what's going on in this wide world. Blown up nothingness. It might not even be real. Research suppressed technology. Those wrinkled fuckers at the top willl not let it happen. Free energy. Cures for cancr and a legion of other illnesses and diseases. Nope. Not for the great hordes of the unwashed. Power and control is the only thing that causes these reptiles to get a hard on. Yeah, let's just fuck the world itself and throw in a few boys from Thailand too! We're supra-wealthy, above the law and are entitled to do whatever we think we want to as far as controlling civilisation. Technology is racing out of control and you can bet your ass that it is all going to be used directly or indirectly for control, and killing anything, or anyone, or millions of us that get in their way, or step out of line. Imagine widespread riotting in all the major death-traps(cities), Police are then used in a military function, in addition to the miliyary itself to preserve the control mechanism/system with any means necessary. That means killing us. This disgusting experiment of nation building called the USA is being dismantled rapidly. Outsourcing of all sorts of manufacturing, business, employment. Borders wide open. The Patriot Acts I and II. Operation Garden Plot. MK-Ultra. Operation Monarch, High Active Aural Research Program(H.A.A.R.P.) technology; which can manipulate and control to an impressive degree the very weather itself, not to mention precipitate earth quakes and eruptions depending on the level of the stress and pressure involved in these kinds of geological happenings. Pay attention to the weather casts and look up at the skies several times and a day and I guarantee you will see the most un-natural cloud formations. Shapes I've never perveived as I child, adolescent; into my late twenties and early thirties I discovered this truth. Any and all can turn their eyes skyward and witness nefarious agendas going on in broad daylight with frequecies, vibrations, microwaves, electromagnetism that are absolutely unhealthy for all living things on this planet. Mind control is alive and well at Montauk, CENTCOM, Intelligence Agencies all over the world, Tavistock Institute, etc. The government, church, media, corporations, the syndicate, mob, underground are all in bed together fucking and producing mutated, dangerous, unspiritual and un-loving, unsustainable, and intolerable realities. It's easier to cop smack, crack, or coke, or speed than it is to see a doctor, and god forbid ask for anything specific, because you informed yourself and have a plan to remedy it. Be it valium or ampicillin or amphetamines or narcotic/opiod analgesics, sedatives, tranquilizers, HIV meds, blood and heart medication, youget the drift, hypnotics, anti-depressants, whatever. Christ onna fuckin' crutch man, I know my body and mind better than any shrink or doctor and know what works for me and eases the pain and it makes me feel good and gives me energy. How the fuck are we gonna get sober anyway because the goddamned CIA/GOV'T/Military/The top Thirteeen wealthiest families/dynastys in the world bring it into he country by the hundreds of tons, then bust the users and dealers. Making money three ways off the drug trade. Don't forget enforcement and incarceration. Day nine clean using suboxone I copped off the street. Four more days on my self devised walk off the dope with suboxone plan, but it works real good as far as I'm concerned. Can't feel the dope when your on it(I tried)so it's like your lighting your money on fire and throwing it to the wind. I'm a beat it this time folks. Get back on the weeds and pills. END TRANSMISSION  --Much love to all the HoH folk, directly from my pineal gland-third eye-solar plexus,    later on, flapj


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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 4/17/2007 6:21 AM
AMEN to All that You have Stated Flap...I am right there with ya!
 
Congrats on your progress...sending you much love and good chi....
 
Karen

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 4/17/2007 4:38 PM
I second that and also yell a loud AMEN!
 
Hey Flap, congratulations on staying healthy.  That is so good to hear.  Keep on keepin on and let us know how it's going from time to time.
 
luv ya,
sue

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From: flapjackSent: 4/20/2007 2:05 AM
Good evening psychnauts, flapj here. Day twelve(eleven?) no dope and first day no suboxone and I feel fine. Thank the GREAT ALL for helping me and thanks to myself for keeping my word to myself and will power up, and finally thanks to all of you in this forum. Sincerely, you all have played a part in my lengthy, repeated attempts at recovery for the last four months, but I have the wisdom to know that twelve days is not a long time and that I'm not out of the fire, nor shall I ever be completely out of the fire. My guard will always have to be up, as well as my will power. Perhaps as time goes by and my behaviour changes and I begin to fill my extra time with other pursuits then it wil be easier, and even then I must always remember and have my guard up. Thank you Karen and Suziblues for your kind replies. I certainly shall keep you all posted on progress and, hopefully not, relapses. Today the GREAT ALL has bestowed upon me a funny dualistic hope/despair for the future. It is probably just an episode of manic depression, i.e., feel good-feel bad cycle. Now, I feel good, a few hous ago I was incredibly angry and despondent about the goings-on of this world, because I applied for a medical assistance card a little north of where I stay in Philly and was rejected, but the woman who was my case worker set up another appointment and she said I have the option to fill out a denial form, which basically means even though by the books I do not qualify, I can attempt to send my application in anyway and hope that I will be accepted. Oh well. We'll see. Later y'all, much love to all of you, and hope all is as smooth as it can be for all the HoH'ers and their friends and loved ones, flapjack    P.S.- I will continue to inhale the sacred remedies of our people(weed), and enjoy the wonderful world of sedatives, anxiolytics, hypnotics, and tranquilizers. Does anybody know where to score some hydergine(cognition/mentation enhancer)tablets? Just kidding. Bye now.

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From: MSN NicknameLovingmom2433Sent: 4/20/2007 4:18 AM
Flap,Im so happy to hear things are looking up.
12 days is awesome,.
How long were you on Suboxen??
Im going to tell my doctor that I want off Subutex in 90 days, if he had his way he would keep me on for a year.
I was taking Suboxen but I was SOOO sick to my stomach.
The doc thinks it was the naloxene in the suboxen..
GOOD LUCK, Dont EVER GIVE UP,  Much Love to you, Karen/Loving Mom

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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 4/20/2007 6:14 AM
Hi Flap,
You are one of the most Articulate, Artistic and Enlightened Spirits in human form that I have had the honor of crossing paths with...thank you for your posts of wisdom and humor rolled into one!
 
I have an idea for you to fill your extra time when you cross that bridge. I think you should make a website and write...write these Amazing posts and put it out there for the people to wrap or warp their minds around...It would be very successful, no doubt.
 
Keep telling yourself the assistance will come through and I will do the same...
 
Love and Joy
Karen

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From: MSN NicknameSuziblues2Sent: 4/20/2007 6:53 PM
Hi Flap,
OMG!   I totally agree with Karen regarding the website!
 
You'd be excellent!    You write so intellegently and artistically it just amazes me.   Plus, you know so much about the world and you have so many ideas and interesting therories I know that I'd be a regular at that website, if you decide to do it.
 
and you're funny!
 
okay........now before your head explodes I want to also congratulate you on your days.  12 days is awesome, believe me.  Soon the 12 will turn into 24 and before ya know it you'll have a year etc. so keep on .... keep the faith!
 
luv,
sue

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From: flapjackSent: 4/21/2007 6:58 PM
Hey Lovingmom, flapj here, and greetings to all the HoHers this afternoon. Basically, I got thirteen 8mg. suboxone off the street @ $7.oo a pop, and from what I hear, people are paying as much as twenty dollars a piece for the 8mg. I know in the pharmacy, no matter what dosage size you get prescribed it is five dollars a pill.(around here anyway - there is no generic yet - right? or wrong? I don't know - the ones I got were orange, hexagonal in shape with an 8N or N8 on one side and what looked like a sword or possibly a cross on the other side)) Any way, I took 8mg. for four days; then went to breaking them in half and taking halfs(4mg)for six days, finally I started taking quarters for six days(after day two, I staggered the quarters into every other day doses for six days.  I had three and a half left, a whole one, two halfs, and six quarters. I gave the whole one away to a friend in need, and today I woke up with a big itch to do a couple bags(because I ate about ten 1mg. alprazolam tablets last night) so I took the two halfs, and if I'm stupid enough to to go out and cop, then I'll just be throwing my money right into the dealers hand for no effect at all. Little to no chance of that actually happening, but I took the 'boxones just in case. So now I only have three quarters left, because I gave the other three away to someone in need. I'm about to go out into my tiny front porch/garden and do some planting, watering, and feeding. Love to you all my friends, I keep all of you and your well being in thought from time to time, and as often as I can. I wish you all well. Much love, your fellow psychonaut, flapjack  --  oh yea, A new friend of mine , a nam vet, said that his doctor at the V.A. he goes to told him that the gov't knew about buprenorphine for at least twenty/thirty years before they 'trickled' it into the medical field for treatment for opioid addiction. Typical gov't, elitist bullshit. Anything that can help, heal, or allow another human whom is suffering some relief and treatment will most assuredly be an incredibly lethargic and insincere bureaucratic endeavour/process. The reason why is the power elite, financial elite, industry elite, military elite, gov't elite, medical elite, etc.,  could give a rats ass about human rights or healing the many physical, emotional, psychological, spiritual, physiological illnesses and diseases which are assailing the human species and growng more resistnent and virulent by the day. Probably all in the plan for people and population control, of which the Rockefellers were strong advocates. To any who read this entry, scroll back to one of my threads entitled 'QUOTES' on this board and read somewhat of the elite's mind set, and plans for the future. Also I would encourage you to read "The Rockefeller Files" by Gary Allen at this comp addy http://www.mega.nu:8080/ampp/gary_allen_rocker/index.html#metapop  I admit it is a rather lengthy read, but well worth it. And pass this addy along to all you know so that they can begin to understand that this country is fast becoming a police state. It has been for a long time now really. Trying to excercise your constitutional freedoms and sticking your nose wehere "they" would rather not have you sticking it will quickly land you in prison or jail, or perhaps an out of the way asylum for the mentally ill. Maybe your person and reputation could be slandered, libeled, ruined, not to mention your career. And last but not least, if you keep digging for the truth and exposing or otherwise helping to spread knowledge that the powers that be would rather the great hordes of the unwashed to be un-aware of(which of course that they have been lied to their entire lives and are nothing more than human chattle to the existing power elite and it's many faces, facets, agencies, and tentacles)you could be very quickly, secretly, and mercilessly killed by one of the many lackeys, henchmen, mind-controlled slaves, etc., of the power elite. As my immortal soul shall be judged by the GREAT ALL as to wether I have performed my tasks and learned my lessons here on this living being earth, so shall their souls be adjudged, and I tremble at the thought of what shall become of them, having turned their back on THE GREAT ALL and their fellow humans and brethren species and mother/planet. Perhaps at the Fullmaking, which we call the END, we will understand. Until then, may The GREAT ALL bestow upon all of us strength, wisdom, compassion, foresight, mercy, pity, understanding, and help in strengthening our ailing spirits so that we may all help ourselves the better and conversely help our friends and loved ones the better in humble service to the BENEVOLENT POWERS of the UNIVERSE. Sincerely, and in HOPE, your fellow psychonaut, flapjack

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From: MSN NicknameKaren-_Sent: 4/22/2007 9:04 AM
Hi Flap,
Yeah...the more ya dig the nastier and sicker it gets. I have been digging into the Alternative Health Care issues and I finally had to just say fuck it because it was getting my body all knotted up and my stomach wrenching. I have decided to leave it up to the warriors and continue on in my healing corner.
 
Continued success on your kickin....
 
Love and Joy
Karen

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