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From: spacetunes1  (Original Message) Sent: 7/20/2004 7:31 PM 
shdblegl  to michele, I was told I had to be no higher than 10 milagrams of meth, was on that about 5 days & then told not to take anything for 24 hours before my appt. to get suboxone Man was that hard, Everyone has their opinions on this but I am not happy with suboxone, I was told it would be easy to get off, so far it is not, maybe I am not giving it enough time, I started on 8 mils 4 times a day, but because I was told it would be easy to get off, 2 days later I tried to stop, by 11 in morning had to take 1. Doctor says to give it time. My stomach is always in knots, my head hurts & I do not sleep well, yet!!!. I was so happy to be off the meth, told my family & friends. When I was on meth I found my perfect dose at 60, did not ""feel"" it, just felt normal everyday, very seldom got sick, both my wives died of aids & hep c, most of my friends are dead & I was feeling healthy, go figure. Mow everyday I get up from a shitty sleep, feeling shitty, having shitty shits. But I've talked to a couple of people who have nothing but good things to say about suboxone. I am now on 2 mils up to 2 a day on how I feel, I am going to stay on this for a while & hopefully it will all level off.. Also sorry about the multiple post.
                                                                                                                                                Greg H
Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we are here we might as well dance

 

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From: shdblegl Sent: 7/21/2004 1:45 PM 
Greg,
thanks for the info..i have been having second, third, and fourth thoughts about switiching to bupe...when I talk to the director of the program, I think Im going to ask him for one straight answer after I give him my history..
"Which one is the smarter route..just  detox from the 35 mgs Im on now till 0 mgs and than deal with the off of meth drama for a while or am I just proloning the agony I know is coming regardless..
God I hate this shit already! Talk about how we want it now..I want off now (who cares if I had a 20 year run with drugs..I want it simple, quick, and done..yeah right...in a perfect world..maybe
 
michele

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From: Marco Sent: 7/21/2004 2:35 PM 
Greg- I posted to ya on the other thread before I read this one.  DON"T GET DISCOURAGED.  This can and will work for you.  Right now, take as little as possible.  If 1mg holds you, take that.  If you NEED 2mg, take that.  But for the time being take as little as possible while keeping yourself comfortable.
 
Also, sorry, another question:  what was the exact taper schedule?  It sounds like you started at 16mg/day and tapered down over a month.  I'm afraid my friend, that your doc didn't do you any favors if that's how he told you to do it.  But anway- can you give me as exact as you can remember: how much sub. for how many days and well, just your whole taper schedule?  And don't worry, you'll get thru this and when it's over you'll be glad you did it.
 
Marco

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From: Marco Sent: 7/21/2004 2:52 PM 
Michele-  I know what your doc will tell you (actually I don't, it depends on whether or not he's taken the 8 HOUR COURSE that makes people EXPERTS), but it's been my experience that docs (even those who have become experts thru 8 whole hours of training) don't know shit about this drug; so his advice ain't gonna help.  At this point, my best guess re Greg is that his doc probably didn't give him a good schedule to taper off the sub.  But actually, as I'm learning, no one knows much about it other than that people react very differently.  For some it is a miracle, for others it is evil (to borrow your word). 
 
In the end, it's still gonna be your decision.  But I wouldn't take your doctors word, nor would I take my own word (if I were someone else)- cuz the only sure thing is that no one can tell you for sure how it's going to affect you.
 
Still, the great majority of people haven't had problems.
 
Marco

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From: spacetunes1 Sent: 7/22/2004 10:03 AM 
The last 2 days have been pretty good so far, maybe the suboxone is doing what it is supposed now that I stabilized my dose, if you can talk to marco,he is very insightful on this subject & really helped me alot. Either way you do it there will some discomfort. Just hang in there........................Greg H 

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From: spacetunes1 Sent: 7/22/2004 10:06 AM 
The doctor told me I was going about it all wrong, but at times I felt OK & really thought I could just stop. Have an appt with him tomorrow, he seems like a good knowledgable doctor, but me being the bull headed person I can be I thought I knew better. Sometimes I do & sometimes I don't. Again thanks..........Greg H 

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From: Lovingmom2433 Sent: 7/22/2004 10:15 AM 
Greg,
 
Hope the doctor is helpful and he is able to get you on the right dose.  Love karen

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From: shdblegl Sent: 7/22/2004 7:11 PM 
Greg,
glad you are feeling better...me..im just going to take it verrrrrry slowly, the eight hours Marco referred to is a bit scary, but I just dont know..maybe right now the best thing for me  is just to stay stable (finally) on 35mgs  while some options are starting to open up for me......cause the last thing and most probable thing to happen is me getting overwhelmed and start to use some kind of substance little by little to calm the anxiety.......I think my "dead line" of October of being off meth is a little unrealistic..better to be sane than not sane and sick! (god it used to be so much easeir when your mission was clear..go and cop..too bad it leads to death, jail or imo worse, total loss of self!!)
 
michele
 
 

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From: Lovingmom2433 Sent: 7/23/2004 9:26 AM 
Michele,
 
I am so glad you decided to take the tapering off slow.  We need you around here, sane and happy, lol.
Besides October is the absolutely worst month for me and i will need you.  Much love Karen
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Greg,
glad you are feeling better...me..im just going to take it verrrrrry slowly, the eight hours Marco referred to is a bit scary, but I just dont know..maybe right now the best thing for me  is just to stay stable (finally) on 35mgs  while some options are starting to open up for me......cause the last thing and most probable thing to happen is me getting overwhelmed and start to use some kind of substance little by little to calm the anxiety.......I think my "dead line" of October of being off meth is a little unrealistic..better to be sane than not sane and sick! (god it used to be so much easeir when your mission was clear..go and cop..too bad it leads to death, jail or imo worse, total loss of self!!)
 
michele
 
 

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From: Marco Sent: 7/23/2004 4:16 PM 
Hey Michele-  I'm also so glad that you decided to kind of slow it down a bit.
 
Marco

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